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Not that it makes a whole lot of difference, but those explosions don't appear to cluster munitions. Probably some kind of fragmentation rocket fired from a gr

Not that it makes a whole lot of difference, but those explosions don't appear to cluster munitions. Probably some kind of fragmentation rocket fired from a grad[0]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BM-21_Grad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BM-21_Grad

tguvot 5y ago
They been finding cassetes. Most likely uragan. grad is more straight-forward. Also in another bombardment were found scattered around those lovely things https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PFM-1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PFM-1 . It's also been shot by uragan
megous 5y ago
These do look like submunitions, though: https://twitter.com/_____Tweety____/status/1498384301829894144 https://twitter.com/_____Tweety____/status/14983843018298941... At least I don't see any rockets in any of the frames. And the explosions don't seem that big.
- WatchDog 5y ago
  With a cluster bomb/submunitions, you should see a bunch of impacts all at the same time, in this video the impacts all seem to be spaced apart at a rate similar to the fire rate of a grad. With the frame rate and resolution of the video, it isn't surprising that it's hard to see a rocket. The rockets look like fragmentation warheads, you can see a lot of shrapnel get thrown off on each impact, frag explosions won't look as large or bright as other kinds of HE warheads.
  - megous 5y ago
    Do non-submunition warheads separate from the rocket in the air? Because rockets are 3m long, and I don't think they'd just disappear after the warhead explosion. In other videos you could see rocket bodies sticking from the pavement after impact, etc. Anyway, I guess you're right. Even if this was edge of the killing field with a mix of submunitions from various rockets fired at different times, there's be a lot of noise in the video from the other submunitions hitting nearby.

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Not that it makes a whole lot of difference, but those explosions don't appear to cluster munitions. Probably some kind of fragmentation rocket fired from a gr

by WatchDog 5y ago

tguvot 5y ago
They been finding cassetes. Most likely uragan. grad is more straight-forward. Also in another bombardment were found scattered around those lovely things https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PFM-1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PFM-1 . It's also been shot by uragan
megous 5y ago
These do look like submunitions, though: https://twitter.com/_____Tweety____/status/1498384301829894144 https://twitter.com/_____Tweety____/status/14983843018298941... At least I don't see any rockets in any of the frames. And the explosions don't seem that big.
- WatchDog 5y ago
  With a cluster bomb/submunitions, you should see a bunch of impacts all at the same time, in this video the impacts all seem to be spaced apart at a rate similar to the fire rate of a grad. With the frame rate and resolution of the video, it isn't surprising that it's hard to see a rocket. The rockets look like fragmentation warheads, you can see a lot of shrapnel get thrown off on each impact, frag explosions won't look as large or bright as other kinds of HE warheads.
  - megous 5y ago
    Do non-submunition warheads separate from the rocket in the air? Because rockets are 3m long, and I don't think they'd just disappear after the warhead explosion. In other videos you could see rocket bodies sticking from the pavement after impact, etc. Anyway, I guess you're right. Even if this was edge of the killing field with a mix of submunitions from various rockets fired at different times, there's be a lot of noise in the video from the other submunitions hitting nearby.