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Fascism isn't politics, it's violence, and gab is a violent platform that supports and encourages as much violence as plausible deniability let's them get away

Fascism isn't politics, it's violence, and gab is a violent platform that supports and encourages as much violence as plausible deniability let's them get away with.

Hitton 5y ago
Being nasty on internets isn't violence. Claiming that it is minimizes actual violence. Violence is violence.
- npteljes 5y ago
  Gab routinely hosts hate speech. That's not just being nasty on the internets.
  - f1refly 5y ago
    How is speaking about hateful things on the internet not being nasty on the internet? Isn't that the literal definition of hate speech?
    - npteljes 5y ago
      I can't imagine hate speech that's not nasty, but not every nasty text is hate speech. Circling back to the topic at hand, Reddit and image boards, for examples, can be quite nasty. Yet F-Droid hosts apps that's sole purpose is to access these platforms. So, and I'm referring my original parent comment, being nasty is not a problem. Hate speech is the problem.
      - f1refly 5y ago
        But how would we know what is hate speech and what is just nasty? Do we just ask you every time? This issue comes up? Surely everyone has his own defintion of what should be banned and what shouldn't be? What makes your definition more important than other people's definition?
        npteljes 5y ago
        That's a good question! Hate speech as such is also a legal issue[0]. So if you host a platform, you need to comply with the different laws. I think that takes precedence over the different people's definitions. Other than that, I think hosts are entitled to vet their guests for non-protected characteristics, and for one, a group of your users speaking out against another group of your users might not be something you'd like to host. But that's entirely up to the platform's providers, some mind it more than others. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_by_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_by_country
pinephoneguy 5y ago
These kind of statements push moderate people towards real fascism. I don't know if that's your goal or if you're exceptionally naive but I don't think it's what people want on this site.

Fascism isn't politics, it's violence, and gab is a violent platform that supports and encourages as much violence as plausible deniability let's them get away with.

Hitton 5y ago

Being nasty on internets isn't violence. Claiming that it is minimizes actual violence. Violence is violence.

npteljes 5y ago
Gab routinely hosts hate speech. That's not just being nasty on the internets.
- f1refly 5y ago
  How is speaking about hateful things on the internet not being nasty on the internet? Isn't that the literal definition of hate speech?
  - npteljes 5y ago
    I can't imagine hate speech that's not nasty, but not every nasty text is hate speech. Circling back to the topic at hand, Reddit and image boards, for examples, can be quite nasty. Yet F-Droid hosts apps that's sole purpose is to access these platforms. So, and I'm referring my original parent comment, being nasty is not a problem. Hate speech is the problem.
    - f1refly 5y ago
      But how would we know what is hate speech and what is just nasty? Do we just ask you every time? This issue comes up? Surely everyone has his own defintion of what should be banned and what shouldn't be? What makes your definition more important than other people's definition?
      - npteljes 5y ago
        That's a good question! Hate speech as such is also a legal issue[0]. So if you host a platform, you need to comply with the different laws. I think that takes precedence over the different people's definitions. Other than that, I think hosts are entitled to vet their guests for non-protected characteristics, and for one, a group of your users speaking out against another group of your users might not be something you'd like to host. But that's entirely up to the platform's providers, some mind it more than others. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_by_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_by_country

pinephoneguy 5y ago

These kind of statements push moderate people towards real fascism. I don't know if that's your goal or if you're exceptionally naive but I don't think it's what people want on this site.