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> it's harming the entire web platform I fully disagree. The web platform will no longer be an open platform once Google is able to use it's standard suite of

> it's harming the entire web platform I fully disagree. The web platform will no longer be an open platform once Google is able to use it's standard suite of tactics to force everyone on iOS to switch over to Chrome. As irritating as the iOS WebKit monopoly may be for a handful of web developers, it's the last line in the sand against Google's complete control of the web that forces them to at least try to involve standards bodies. Apple can be your enemy in every other day and respect, but we all need to line up and support them in this one key area. The open web depends entirely on it.

AgentME 5y ago
Saying that the situation with Apple refusing standards now is good in order to possibly protect us from Google pushing harmful non-standards later feels like a bad excuse for them.
- ocdtrekkie 5y ago
  The "standards" Apple is currently refusing to implement are already standards in name only: They're Google written specs solely implemented on Google's browser which generally is only also adopted by rebranded clones of Google's browser. Mozilla has also refused most of them, but since Mozilla doesn't also have an operating system, Google happily sidesteps them.
rvz 5y ago
Google seems to have given the ‘false promise’ of the open-web ever since Chrome released and taken over IE. Now they get to push whatever web feature they want by the web standards committee and is immediately available in Chrome, other Chromium Based browsers and Electron apps, with other browsers needing to implement them to keep up. All along the ‘open web’ was the exchange from one behemoth to another. It is a two horse race between Google and Apple with Google winning and calling the shots - hence the web developers always supporting Chrome first and calling Safari ‘the new IE’ and telling everyone else using other non-Chromium browser just to switch to one via banners or messages.

AgentME 5y ago

Saying that the situation with Apple refusing standards now is good in order to possibly protect us from Google pushing harmful non-standards later feels like a bad excuse for them.

ocdtrekkie 5y ago
The "standards" Apple is currently refusing to implement are already standards in name only: They're Google written specs solely implemented on Google's browser which generally is only also adopted by rebranded clones of Google's browser. Mozilla has also refused most of them, but since Mozilla doesn't also have an operating system, Google happily sidesteps them.

rvz 5y ago

Google seems to have given the ‘false promise’ of the open-web ever since Chrome released and taken over IE. Now they get to push whatever web feature they want by the web standards committee and is immediately available in Chrome, other Chromium Based browsers and Electron apps, with other browsers needing to implement them to keep up. All along the ‘open web’ was the exchange from one behemoth to another. It is a two horse race between Google and Apple with Google winning and calling the shots - hence the web developers always supporting Chrome first and calling Safari ‘the new IE’ and telling everyone else using other non-Chromium browser just to switch to one via banners or messages.