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"A propaganda technique where criticisms are deflected by raising corresponding criticisms of the opposite side."[0] OP is not deflecting criticisms of Russia,
by eindiran 5y ago
"A propaganda technique where criticisms are deflected by raising corresponding criticisms of the opposite side."[0]
OP is not deflecting criticisms of Russia, OP is pointing out that the claim that NC is taking a principled stance is blatantly false. Obviously NC can still choose to proceed since they believe that this is a net benefit, but they cannot claim it is a principled stance.
[0] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/whataboutism https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/whataboutism
> And perfect consistency is the enemy of improving short-term outcomes.
Sure, I can agree with that point. But everyone can agree that pointing out inconsistency is definitionally not whataboutism.
- otterley 5y agoWhether you call it whataboutism or something else, my point remains: it is still a cheap argument anyone can throw out that isn't HN-caliber.
- eindiran 5y agoCalling repeatedly for violent revolution isn't HN-caliber certainly but that hasn't stopped you from doing it all over this thread. <- This is whataboutism by the way.
- otterley 5y agoSorry, what was the point of this?
- eindiran 5y agoSorry, that was a bit rude and pointless. I apologize. I am just frustrated that your comments all over this thread are suggesting that people should take up arms and violently overthrow their governments in Venezuela and Russia, but you are here policing good-taste commenting on HN. I don't really know how to address the meat of your point, in that I think OP's point is a perfectly legitimate one and you don't, and I think it is unlikely that I would ever be able to convince you (and you will certainly never be able to convince me).