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You are making a call right now that you will come to regret not unlike Matthew Prince (Cloudflare) did. Your reasoning is in the right spot, but the erosion

You are making a call right now that you will come to regret not unlike Matthew Prince (Cloudflare) did. Your reasoning is in the right spot, but the erosion of trust and the blanket nature of your decision right now is going to hurt you more than help anything. I'd urge you to reconsider - if not I'll reconsider my business as well (not Russian related at all).

tomnipotent 5y ago
> that you will come to regret This is news to me. I've not seen anything from Prince or Cloudflare that demonstrates they thought they made a bad decision.
g42gregory 5y ago
Could you mention what was the Cloudflare decision you are referring to? I must have missed the news cycle. Thanks.
- MattGaiser 5y ago
  They are likely referring to how Cloudflare dropped DDOS protection for Daily Stormer and 8chan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudflare#Free_Speech_Debate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudflare#Free_Speech_Debate
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totony 5y ago
>Your reasoning is in the right spot, but the erosion of trust and the blanket nature of your decision right now is going to hurt you more than help anything. Sometimes people are willing to take a sub-optimal decision in order to uphold what they believe in. Not everything has to have a positive ROI or an in-depth positive risk analysis
TedShiller 5y ago
Agreed. While I politically agree with the Namecheap CEO in this case (which by the way, is a total coincidence), I'll move all of my domains out of Namecheap for the likely scenario that in the future the Namecheap CEO won't agree with me politically, since apparently now arbitrary political opinion determines if I can do business with them.
gpm 5y ago
To be a voice on the other side. Cloudflare's call to stop supporting the white supremacist website that was boasting that cloudflare was supporting them is one of the reasons why I'm now a cloudflare customer. And while I currently use other registrars, this call is the strongest reason I've ever had to become a namecheap customer. I'd much rather do business with people with morals and integrity, than those without. That's for moral reasons and business reasons, people with morals are less likely to screw you.
- devopsee 5y ago
  That’s tottaly understandable. As a russian I just want you to know, that Namecheap do not harm our elite who gains from the government policies, they harm people like me, who are trying to built a blog. Do not want to doubt your words, but there is not much moral in this.
diebeforei485 5y ago
Cloudflare is a near-monopoly in its segment, Namecheap is not. There are plenty of alternatives.
larsonian 5y ago
Cloudflare is absolutely a false comparison. Punishing Nazis is a good thing. Punishing all Russians for the actions of a government they have no say in based solely on their nationality is being a Nazi (which is not a good thing).

tomnipotent 5y ago

> that you will come to regret This is news to me. I've not seen anything from Prince or Cloudflare that demonstrates they thought they made a bad decision.

g42gregory 5y ago

Could you mention what was the Cloudflare decision you are referring to? I must have missed the news cycle. Thanks.

MattGaiser 5y ago
They are likely referring to how Cloudflare dropped DDOS protection for Daily Stormer and 8chan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudflare#Free_Speech_Debate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudflare#Free_Speech_Debate
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totony 5y ago

>Your reasoning is in the right spot, but the erosion of trust and the blanket nature of your decision right now is going to hurt you more than help anything. Sometimes people are willing to take a sub-optimal decision in order to uphold what they believe in. Not everything has to have a positive ROI or an in-depth positive risk analysis

TedShiller 5y ago

Agreed. While I politically agree with the Namecheap CEO in this case (which by the way, is a total coincidence), I'll move all of my domains out of Namecheap for the likely scenario that in the future the Namecheap CEO won't agree with me politically, since apparently now arbitrary political opinion determines if I can do business with them.

gpm 5y ago

To be a voice on the other side. Cloudflare's call to stop supporting the white supremacist website that was boasting that cloudflare was supporting them is one of the reasons why I'm now a cloudflare customer. And while I currently use other registrars, this call is the strongest reason I've ever had to become a namecheap customer. I'd much rather do business with people with morals and integrity, than those without. That's for moral reasons and business reasons, people with morals are less likely to screw you.

devopsee 5y ago
That’s tottaly understandable. As a russian I just want you to know, that Namecheap do not harm our elite who gains from the government policies, they harm people like me, who are trying to built a blog. Do not want to doubt your words, but there is not much moral in this.

diebeforei485 5y ago

Cloudflare is a near-monopoly in its segment, Namecheap is not. There are plenty of alternatives.

larsonian 5y ago

Cloudflare is absolutely a false comparison. Punishing Nazis is a good thing. Punishing all Russians for the actions of a government they have no say in based solely on their nationality is being a Nazi (which is not a good thing).