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How’s this (reportedly) 64-km long column of Russian tanks and armor outside Kyiv for ‘irreversibly committed’? (1) 1: https://t.me/uniannet/33675 https://t.me

by 0x38B 5y ago

How’s this (reportedly) 64-km long column of Russian tanks and armor outside Kyiv for ‘irreversibly committed’? (1) 1: https://t.me/uniannet/33675 https://t.me/uniannet/33675 I’m afraid that Putin can’t afford to lose face now that he’s started.

wahern 5y ago
If Ukrainians continue to put up a good fight and maintain strategically significant control, the risk of a nuclear war increases. With Western weapons flowing into Ukraine, Putin might do something extreme as a scare tactic. I doubt there's much increased risk of a nuclear volley; if Putin did do the unthinkable, the West would almost certainly cease the flow of arms. But that still constitutes a nuclear war, leaving behind a far bleaker and far more unpredictable legacy.
- mint2 5y ago
  Putin Using a tactical Nuke in Ukraine is the start of WW3. The west would not stop supplying arms, it would more likely ballistic missile all of Russia committed troops in Ukraine.
  - tyleo 5y ago
    I don’t know what the west would do but I can’t imagine they’d stop. I can’t imagine it would be as simple as, “they used a nuke, we all better go home”.
- jacquesm 5y ago
  > if Putin did do the unthinkable, the West would almost certainly cease the flow of arms. I suspect your reasoning isn't correct.
  - HstryrsrBttn 5y ago
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KptMarchewa 5y ago
This column gets longer each time it's posted.
- jacquesm 5y ago
  That's good news: that means it isn't moving.
- willis936 5y ago
  It's going to be an awful mess cleaning up so many millions of tons of burnt scrap metal.
  - HstryrsrBttn 5y ago
    I don't think most Ukrainians care if the stay there.
  - tguvot 5y ago
    ukraine has metallurgical industry. it can use some scrap. and whatever left in kinda good shape: they can learn from Israel about repurposing old soviet hardware in creative ways
- HstryrsrBttn 5y ago
tguvot 5y ago
From one side yes, from the other side in russia there is total blackout on information. News only about victories in LNR/DNR areas and that's it. They close media outlets that call it war and not "special operation". It's forbidden to publicize non-official information and amount of casualties not disclosed and classified. It allows to have "mission accomplished" moment any time internally and be done with it. All what they need it's some kind of concession from Ukraine in order to show de-nazification/de-militarization that was promised

by 0x38B 5y ago

wahern 5y ago

If Ukrainians continue to put up a good fight and maintain strategically significant control, the risk of a nuclear war increases. With Western weapons flowing into Ukraine, Putin might do something extreme as a scare tactic. I doubt there's much increased risk of a nuclear volley; if Putin did do the unthinkable, the West would almost certainly cease the flow of arms. But that still constitutes a nuclear war, leaving behind a far bleaker and far more unpredictable legacy.

mint2 5y ago
Putin Using a tactical Nuke in Ukraine is the start of WW3. The west would not stop supplying arms, it would more likely ballistic missile all of Russia committed troops in Ukraine.
- tyleo 5y ago
  I don’t know what the west would do but I can’t imagine they’d stop. I can’t imagine it would be as simple as, “they used a nuke, we all better go home”.
jacquesm 5y ago
> if Putin did do the unthinkable, the West would almost certainly cease the flow of arms. I suspect your reasoning isn't correct.
- HstryrsrBttn 5y ago
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KptMarchewa 5y ago

This column gets longer each time it's posted.

jacquesm 5y ago
That's good news: that means it isn't moving.
willis936 5y ago
It's going to be an awful mess cleaning up so many millions of tons of burnt scrap metal.
- HstryrsrBttn 5y ago
  I don't think most Ukrainians care if the stay there.
- tguvot 5y ago
  ukraine has metallurgical industry. it can use some scrap. and whatever left in kinda good shape: they can learn from Israel about repurposing old soviet hardware in creative ways
HstryrsrBttn 5y ago

tguvot 5y ago

From one side yes, from the other side in russia there is total blackout on information. News only about victories in LNR/DNR areas and that's it. They close media outlets that call it war and not "special operation". It's forbidden to publicize non-official information and amount of casualties not disclosed and classified. It allows to have "mission accomplished" moment any time internally and be done with it. All what they need it's some kind of concession from Ukraine in order to show de-nazification/de-militarization that was promised