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> Unfortunately, due to the Russian regime's war crimes and human rights violations in Ukraine Just to clarify, does your policy only apply to russians and the
by qiskit 5y ago
> Unfortunately, due to the Russian regime's war crimes and human rights violations in Ukraine
Just to clarify, does your policy only apply to russians and their war crimes and human rights violations against ukraine specifically or is it a blanket policy? Will you refuse to register users from say the UK or France for their war crimes and human rights violations? Or say israel or saudi arabia? Or china or the US?
I guess I'm asking is this, are you doing this for free publicity or for genuine moral concern. You've been in business since 2000 and russia attacked georgia ( 2008? ). Did you stop registration also? Also, since 2000, there have been war crimes committed in iraq, afghanistan, syria, libya, etc, can you remind us what actions you took then and which peoples you prevented from using your service.
- decebalus1 5y ago
- zolosa 5y agoThe questions were valid though. Please check my account age and then can i also get the answers which op asked.
- decebalus1 5y agoNo, they're actually not valid <in this context>. This is textbook whataboutism and not worth engaging. Cheers!
- AnAmericanPOV64 5y agoBy whataboutism, do you mean pointing out the West's hypocrisy? Why don't you just answer his question? Personally, I support the banning of Russian, Saudi, and Israeli accounts. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
- decebalus1 5y agoThe company has employees in Ukraine. And you're also a new account with only 2 comments specifically about this issue. What unit are you in, tovarisch?
- RyEgswuCsn 5y ago> I guess I'm asking is this, are you doing this for free publicity or for genuine moral concern. Not all "what about all the other countries" questions are whataboutism. The author was not trying to justify the invasions because other countries were doing it too, but was to point out the inconsistency in the reasoning stated by Namecheap --- if it were a moral concern then it certainly appears to be an ingenuine one; if it were a PR move, then the pretension of it being a morally driven decision really defeats the purpose of the message.
- decebalus1 5y agoThe company has employees in Ukraine. I think that's a pretty good reason, isn't it?
- tiagod 5y agoThat reason was not given in the OPs tweet, that's the whole point.
- sudosysgen 5y agoYou are using whataboutism fallaciously. Pointing out double standards isn't whataboutism.
- decebalus1 5y agoThe company has employees in Ukraine. Where's the double standard?
- sudosysgen 5y agoFrom the statement: "Unfortunately, due to the Russian regime's war crimes and human rights violations in Ukraine, we will no longer be providing services to users registered in Russia." The double standard accusation comes from assuming good faith on the part of Namecheap. Since I am assuming Namecheap is being truthful, the double standard is that many countries have committed far worse war crimes and human rights violations - yet Namecheap seems not to care. If you aren't assuming good faith, and you think that the reason is actually just that they have employees in Ukraine, then the language on the notice is a lie which could only have been there to get better PR. Since I assume good faith, I'll interpret it as a double standard instead.
- clusterfish 5y agoI hope your own country / city / office / home never gets shelled, so that you never have to learn the difference between caring for your home and a "double standard". Nothing easier than armchair demagoguery, until a grad shell lands in your daughter's bedroom.
- sudosysgen 5y ago
- clusterfish 5y agoDon't bullshit me, you were talking about Namecheap's response, not other countries' sanctions. The sanctioning countries are third parties to this conflict. You can talk about their double standards all you want, I won't disagree. But Namecheap is not a third party to this conflict. They have full right to care more about what is happening to themselves and their families than what happens to people in other unrelated countries and their families. Their reasoning in the email is a factual truth: war crimes in Ukraine specifically. They're allowed to care about themselves. You don't have to care about them yourself, being a third party that has the luxury of double standards in this conflict. But don't project your current position in this conflict onto them, and don't hide your envy or indifference behind demagoguery about their email's wording.
- mandaman 5y ago
- qiskit 5y ago> the company has 1700 employees in Ukraine. Fine. Then say so. Nowhere in his original post did he mention that. Instead he talked about human rights and war crimes. Another comment from your CEO: "We've always had a policy that almost anything goes excluding human rights abuses and especially war crimes and supporting violence. Nothing changed here." Apparently, there is a policy about human rights and war crimes. Well then can you have him answer my question. Now that we cleared things up. Thanks.
- ComradePhil 5y ago"Whataboutism" is a political term invented to deflect blame (which is exactly what whataboutism is supposed to mean). Its main purpose is to be able judge others by a different standard than what you are willing to be judged by.
- decebalus1 5y agoLots of new accounts with a lot of opinions lately..
- ComradePhil 5y ago
- decebalus1 5y agoWrong address, tovarisch. I didn't grow up with US cold war propaganda and can detect Kremlin bullshit from miles away.
- ComradePhil 5y agoIf you grew up being exposed to "first world" media and education, you absolutely did grow up with US cold war propaganda.