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I am frankly shocked and dismayed at the number of people deriding this decision. In a grey world this seems like such a black and white thing. Sure it may inco
by hamaluik 5y ago
I am frankly shocked and dismayed at the number of people deriding this decision. In a grey world this seems like such a black and white thing. Sure it may inconvenience a few, but on the other hand innocents are being slaughtered. All the weight of these complaints don't even begin to touch the scale when compared to literal children being murdered.
Besides all that, Namecheap is a private company and can do business with whomever they wish.
- lamontcg 5y agoYeah, the employees of Namecheap are going to sleep wondering if they're going to wake up or just die in a hail of Russian MLRS rockets. Meanwhile half this forum is very concerned that Namecheap's actions sounds too much like woke cancel culture.
- Seattle3503 5y agoSome people are so online they can't see the difference between an inflammatory tweet and incendiary bomb.
- int_19h 5y agoIf it inconvenienced the few for the sake of improving matters for those innocents, that would be a different matter. But it doesn't actually do anything of a kind.
- hamaluik 5y agoDoesn’t it though? It is in effect part of a larger parcel of sanctions the west is applying to Russia for their actions, and in that light is only one tiny lever; but if enough levers can be applied then I firmly believe there is hope for change for Russia.
- int_19h 5y agoTurning SWIFT off for Russia does actually hurt the ability of the Russian government to finance its operations. But this action does not, and that was exactly my point. That aside, there seems to be this popular sentiment that if sanctions hurt your average Russian enough, they will revolt. I don't know why it's so popular given that it never worked out like that in the past. North Korea got to the point where they were literally eating grass in the 90s, and the Kims are still there.
- thrwyoilarticle 5y agoI don't agree, this is another friction to the Russian economy that directly hurts the Russian government's ability and will to continue. >North Korea got to the point where they were literally eating grass in the 90s, and the Kims are still there. And Putin's goal is to end up begging China for food?
- ridiculous_leke 5y ago> And Putin's goal is to end up begging China for food? I wouldn't be surprised. It will just be branded as something else. Unless China slaps equivalent sanctions, Russia will likely become a Chinese vassal. Future generations of Russians will grow up learning how China saved them from "Western aggression".
- int_19h 5y agoHow exactly does it hurt the Russian government's ability to do anything? And as for food, Russia is already a net exporter.
- disiplus 5y agosimply, it puts inner pressure on him. if enough people in Russia feel the war on them, then they will stand up.
- int_19h 5y agoI reiterate: there's not a single example of that working in the history of sanctions against authoritarian regimes, ever. The reason why there isn't one is because whatever sanctions you can come up with, they cannot make life harder than said authoritarian regime for people inside the country if they tried to "stand up". You might be eating less because of sanctions, but standing up means you'll be eating even less in prison - assuming you live to see it.
- propagandist 5y agoI understand namecheap's decision because they have coworkers in Ukraine. However, unless you apply that same logic to the US, UK, and a host of other nations, you are being hypocritical. They have murdered so many civilians, including kids, that surely they deserve the same punishment. Yet we both know we're not about to see that, and I think we know why.
- hamaluik 5y agoYour blatant whataboutism aside, I do agree that the world would likely be a much better place if companies applied morals like this across the board.
- propagandist 5y agoI'm happy to hear that and glad we're on the same page. It is whataboutism, and I do it because I come from a place where people have been subjugated for decades, and if you protest that, you're called an antisemite. (Yes there is actual antisemitism too--I'm talking about legitimate protest of actions). Calling out people who suddenly have a moral compass is something I'm obligated to do. It might help next time that moral compass is needed.
- thrwyoilarticle 5y agoThat same logic does apply. Private indivuduals of ISIS would not have sold services to the US, or vice versa, or for any other war in a century.
- cheeze 5y agoYeah, but this is HN. A weirdly libertarian group full of COVID deniers, people who think that it originated in a Wuhan lab, and those who care more about privacy than _literally anything else_ HN people are not normal. I generally ignore it on things like this, seems like the crazies come out in force.
- spiralx 5y agoThis site really does largely veer between Republican and Libertarian depending on the topic, anything involving COVID, 'cancel culture' or 'woke'-ness is a shitshow of ideological talking points that I don't remember being prevalent when I first started reading four or so years ago. It used to have a noticeable techno-libertarianism bent for sure, but you could still discuss the nuances of an issue. It's worse than Slashdot was at its peak in the early 2000s when it was absolutely full of libertarians and anarcho-capitalists.
- moistrobot 5y agoHN people feel the most normal to me of any online group. All other social media sites feel extremely progressive with no room for nuance.