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I'm not in Russia and I don't really care about this war (sorry, just being honest!) but this isn't the kind of internet I want, where companies show their virt

I'm not in Russia and I don't really care about this war (sorry, just being honest!) but this isn't the kind of internet I want, where companies show their virtue by taking political positions and removing service from their customers (looking at you AWS). The domain and e-mail service that I paid money for shouldn't be contingent on my government behaving and continuing to behave in a manor that Namecheap approves of. > If you hold any top-level domains with us, we ask that you transfer them to another provider by March 6, 2022. I'll be transferring them this evening, GFY.

amir734jj 5y ago
It was a decision more motivated by the sanctions than human right of war crime.
- propagandist 5y ago
  The email and CEO's explanations say otherwise.
Barrin92 5y ago
>but this isn't the kind of internet I want we're not living in some 90s California cypherpunk fantasy any more. The internet is as real of a domain of warfare as any physical one and just like planes are being grounded, pipelines are being turned off you can be sure cyberspace isn't going to be treated any differently. When Russia and NATO/Europe enter a conflict not caring isn't going to be an option.
- xanaxagoras 5y ago
  So leave that type of warfare to the warring governments. We don't need fractured delivery of every service in accordance with every service provider's politics in relation to current events. > When Russia and NATO/Europe enter a conflict not caring isn't going to be an option. I agree, at that point it's WW3. Just what we need, an absolute disaster.
  - nobody9999 5y ago
    >So leave that type of warfare to the warring governments. We don't need fractured delivery of every service in accordance with every service provider's politics in relation to current events Why shouldn't Namecheap (or me or anyone else) take a position on the current situation? This is going to hurt Namecheap. Almost certainly more than it will hurt the Russian government, and likely more than it will hurt Namecheap's Russian customers. This appears to be Namecheap standing up for their employees (~1700 in Ukraine, IIUC) and taking a moral/ethical stand against the violence, destruction and murder going on right now in Ukraine. Regardless of which side (or none, for that matter) of this you support, why shouldn't Namecheap (or anyone else) express their position and take action in support of that position?
    - xanaxagoras 5y ago
      Take a position, fine. Talk about it, have a big block on top of every page letting everyone know how you feel, donate, etc., I have no problem with any of these. I also think it's for acceptable for them to choose not to renew someone's agreement based on some political stance (obnoxious but within their rights). But if we signed a contract and I paid you to register my domain name or host my e-mail, you can't just take it away from me mid-contract because you're upset about something that somebody else did. There are people downstream from me that rely on that domain or that e-mail hosting service, it's not up to you to take that away from them because you're tangentially involved in one hop. > This is going to hurt Namecheap. Lost me as a customer.
      - nobody9999 5y ago
        >Take a position, fine. Talk about it, have a big block on top of every page letting everyone know how you feel, donate, etc., I have no problem with any of these. Absolutely. And Namecheap has done so and more. And so have you. Good for you. And good for Namecheap. I frequently disagree with decisions my local, state and national governments, as well as corporations make. And I speak up about it too. I withhold my money/business from corporations with whose decisions I disagree. And I vote for the folks who support the policies I support too. I suspect that you do the same. And as I said, good for you! Why shouldn't Namecheap have the same opportunity?
Seattle3503 5y ago
> but this isn't the kind of internet I want, where companies show their virtue by taking political positions and removing service from their customers Which virtue? Justice? Rage? They have 1700 Ukrainian employees, some in cities under siege right now. They are at war and Russia is their enemy.
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amir734jj 5y ago

It was a decision more motivated by the sanctions than human right of war crime.

propagandist 5y ago
The email and CEO's explanations say otherwise.

Barrin92 5y ago

>but this isn't the kind of internet I want we're not living in some 90s California cypherpunk fantasy any more. The internet is as real of a domain of warfare as any physical one and just like planes are being grounded, pipelines are being turned off you can be sure cyberspace isn't going to be treated any differently. When Russia and NATO/Europe enter a conflict not caring isn't going to be an option.

xanaxagoras 5y ago
So leave that type of warfare to the warring governments. We don't need fractured delivery of every service in accordance with every service provider's politics in relation to current events. > When Russia and NATO/Europe enter a conflict not caring isn't going to be an option. I agree, at that point it's WW3. Just what we need, an absolute disaster.
- nobody9999 5y ago
  >So leave that type of warfare to the warring governments. We don't need fractured delivery of every service in accordance with every service provider's politics in relation to current events Why shouldn't Namecheap (or me or anyone else) take a position on the current situation? This is going to hurt Namecheap. Almost certainly more than it will hurt the Russian government, and likely more than it will hurt Namecheap's Russian customers. This appears to be Namecheap standing up for their employees (~1700 in Ukraine, IIUC) and taking a moral/ethical stand against the violence, destruction and murder going on right now in Ukraine. Regardless of which side (or none, for that matter) of this you support, why shouldn't Namecheap (or anyone else) express their position and take action in support of that position?
  - xanaxagoras 5y ago
    Take a position, fine. Talk about it, have a big block on top of every page letting everyone know how you feel, donate, etc., I have no problem with any of these. I also think it's for acceptable for them to choose not to renew someone's agreement based on some political stance (obnoxious but within their rights). But if we signed a contract and I paid you to register my domain name or host my e-mail, you can't just take it away from me mid-contract because you're upset about something that somebody else did. There are people downstream from me that rely on that domain or that e-mail hosting service, it's not up to you to take that away from them because you're tangentially involved in one hop. > This is going to hurt Namecheap. Lost me as a customer.
    - nobody9999 5y ago
      >Take a position, fine. Talk about it, have a big block on top of every page letting everyone know how you feel, donate, etc., I have no problem with any of these. Absolutely. And Namecheap has done so and more. And so have you. Good for you. And good for Namecheap. I frequently disagree with decisions my local, state and national governments, as well as corporations make. And I speak up about it too. I withhold my money/business from corporations with whose decisions I disagree. And I vote for the folks who support the policies I support too. I suspect that you do the same. And as I said, good for you! Why shouldn't Namecheap have the same opportunity?

Seattle3503 5y ago

> but this isn't the kind of internet I want, where companies show their virtue by taking political positions and removing service from their customers Which virtue? Justice? Rage? They have 1700 Ukrainian employees, some in cities under siege right now. They are at war and Russia is their enemy.

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