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> I often drive with sub in my eyes at dawn/dusk and trust that the road is clear Not sure how to say it, but try to never do that going forward, please, for

> I often drive with sub in my eyes at dawn/dusk and trust that the road is clear Not sure how to say it, but try to never do that going forward, please, for your sake and for the sake of the others who share the same road with you. Yes, driving "blind" for one second, maybe two seconds (even though it's uncomfortable for me at this point) from time to time is not the end of the world, particularly if you're driving straight and you had "scanned" the road in front of you beforehand, but driving while "trusting" in others will get you into accidents. Never drive faster than you can see.

chrononaut 5y ago
> I often drive with sub in my eyes at dawn/dusk and trust that the road is clear For others left wondering what this meant, I think GP meant "I often drive with [the sun] in my eyes at dawn/dusk .."
- repsilat 5y ago
  And why beholdest thou the floater that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the submarine that is in thine own eye?
faeyanpiraat 5y ago
To make it more precise: You have to see the point where the end of your braking distance is. This is still not 100% safe (especially in blind corners), but this is the minimum One should do.
gcanyon 5y ago
A younger, stupider me was riding a motorcycle on highway 99 near Merced. It was just after dawn on a Saturday, with literally no one else on the road for miles. So as an experiment, at 70 mph I put my face down on the gas tank: I could see the highway lines on either side, but literally nothing ahead. I wanted to see how long I could hold that position without freaking out. Answer: about twenty seconds. This is far from the only experiment I did back then, I’m lucky to be alive.
- sizzle 5y ago
  This gave me a sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach. I thought I was a badass letting go of my bmx bike handlebars for 5 seconds going downhill as kid in middle school… you really took it to the next level my friend. Glad you are alive and well!
- NikolaNovak 5y ago
  I have a more vivid imagination than you... I could only last about 2 seconds imagining it before freaking out :D
  - gcanyon 5y ago
    It was very difficult to do. I still practice this, only while walking down hallways or alleys where the worst possible outcome is stubbing a toe (or maybe banging my head on something). Interestingly it doesn't seem to matter much: 20 seconds is seemingly my limit walking or motorcycling (although I don't know what my walking limit would have been back then).
throwaway0a5e 5y ago
>not sure how to say it, but try to never do that going forward, And what? Be the lead car of the N-car pileup? It's real easy to spit out idealized "never/always" type crap on the internet but meatspace is full of nuance and no rules of thumb can save you from having to make judgement calls.
- Balero 5y ago
  Or just don't drive. If you are driving blind like the parent is claiming they do (driving without seeing before you can stop is driving blind) then it is only a matter of time until you hurt yourself, or worse someone else. I have driven on the motorway in heavy fog, and like everyone around me I slowed down, and there were no accidents. Acting like an idiot because you think others will is not a good course of action, especially when you will cause issues to the majority who do not act like idiots.

chrononaut 5y ago

> I often drive with sub in my eyes at dawn/dusk and trust that the road is clear For others left wondering what this meant, I think GP meant "I often drive with [the sun] in my eyes at dawn/dusk .."

repsilat 5y ago
And why beholdest thou the floater that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the submarine that is in thine own eye?

faeyanpiraat 5y ago

To make it more precise: You have to see the point where the end of your braking distance is. This is still not 100% safe (especially in blind corners), but this is the minimum One should do.

gcanyon 5y ago

A younger, stupider me was riding a motorcycle on highway 99 near Merced. It was just after dawn on a Saturday, with literally no one else on the road for miles. So as an experiment, at 70 mph I put my face down on the gas tank: I could see the highway lines on either side, but literally nothing ahead. I wanted to see how long I could hold that position without freaking out. Answer: about twenty seconds. This is far from the only experiment I did back then, I’m lucky to be alive.

sizzle 5y ago
This gave me a sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach. I thought I was a badass letting go of my bmx bike handlebars for 5 seconds going downhill as kid in middle school… you really took it to the next level my friend. Glad you are alive and well!
NikolaNovak 5y ago
I have a more vivid imagination than you... I could only last about 2 seconds imagining it before freaking out :D
- gcanyon 5y ago
  It was very difficult to do. I still practice this, only while walking down hallways or alleys where the worst possible outcome is stubbing a toe (or maybe banging my head on something). Interestingly it doesn't seem to matter much: 20 seconds is seemingly my limit walking or motorcycling (although I don't know what my walking limit would have been back then).

throwaway0a5e 5y ago

>not sure how to say it, but try to never do that going forward, And what? Be the lead car of the N-car pileup? It's real easy to spit out idealized "never/always" type crap on the internet but meatspace is full of nuance and no rules of thumb can save you from having to make judgement calls.

Balero 5y ago
Or just don't drive. If you are driving blind like the parent is claiming they do (driving without seeing before you can stop is driving blind) then it is only a matter of time until you hurt yourself, or worse someone else. I have driven on the motorway in heavy fog, and like everyone around me I slowed down, and there were no accidents. Acting like an idiot because you think others will is not a good course of action, especially when you will cause issues to the majority who do not act like idiots.