I mean, the ones that come to my mind are variations on the market rate being closer to $150k and you are trying to get a deal lowballing people. Which of cours

I mean, the ones that come to my mind are variations on the market rate being closer to $150k and you are trying to get a deal lowballing people. Which of course every business is going to do, I don't think they are wrong to negotiate down, but I think being upfront about the range is more honest to candidates and results in a better hiring experience for the hiring company overall. Forcing them to be upfront about the requirements for more money results in candidates better aligned with the requirements I would think. And leaving that to some negotiation without those requirements seems like it just opens the door for bias. I want to hire engineers and keep them based on their qualifications, and negotiating abilities is usually not one of them.