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I don't think anyone has seriously explored collaborating with DoT. If they had they would have at least talked about it. > In this case, you wouldn’t be able

by pm90 5y ago

I don't think anyone has seriously explored collaborating with DoT. If they had they would have at least talked about it. > In this case, you wouldn’t be able to rely on these external sensors being online with 100% uptime, so you’d necessarily be forced to build the capabilities to operate without them anyways. And adding external sensors and local communications and trying to deal with different standards and models and interop adds a ton of complexity. Well, yeah nobody said it was easy. But, it does seem like something that could work, whereas we know that fully autonomous is just not possible with the tech we have today.

jowday 5y ago
Define “fully autonomous” - we have driverless cars in Phoenix and San Francisco right now - granted, with some pretty narrow constraints. Not as narrow as “needs custom hardware installed along every road to work” Another thing to understand is that perception in the way you’re imagining these cameras would work isn’t really an issue for AVs right now. I don’t think the problem you’re describing is a real blocker for AVs.
madamelic 5y ago
> I don't think anyone has seriously explored collaborating with DoT. If they had they would have at least talked about it. Collabing with DoT is a terrible idea imo. Anyone who has seen anything any DoT in America has tried to do in the last few decades should immediately know why. It will cost an astronomical amount of money along with an equal time length. To put "wires in road", it would likely be a project on the scale of trillions and 50+ year deadline. It won't happen, it's more feasible to solve the problem of how to have smart cars on dumb roads rather than relying on bloated and corrupt DoT & contractors to do the work of making smart roads. This isn't even to mention the likely quagmire of what happened with early railroads where the rails laid by different companies weren't compatible with each other and you had to switch to an entirely different train to continue your journey.

by pm90 5y ago

jowday 5y ago

Define “fully autonomous” - we have driverless cars in Phoenix and San Francisco right now - granted, with some pretty narrow constraints. Not as narrow as “needs custom hardware installed along every road to work” Another thing to understand is that perception in the way you’re imagining these cameras would work isn’t really an issue for AVs right now. I don’t think the problem you’re describing is a real blocker for AVs.

madamelic 5y ago

> I don't think anyone has seriously explored collaborating with DoT. If they had they would have at least talked about it. Collabing with DoT is a terrible idea imo. Anyone who has seen anything any DoT in America has tried to do in the last few decades should immediately know why. It will cost an astronomical amount of money along with an equal time length. To put "wires in road", it would likely be a project on the scale of trillions and 50+ year deadline. It won't happen, it's more feasible to solve the problem of how to have smart cars on dumb roads rather than relying on bloated and corrupt DoT & contractors to do the work of making smart roads. This isn't even to mention the likely quagmire of what happened with early railroads where the rails laid by different companies weren't compatible with each other and you had to switch to an entirely different train to continue your journey.