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> There is more than just a change of name involved with LCF: the statement "it still requires energetic deuterons" means the deuterons still have to be hot. t

by trhway 5y ago

> There is more than just a change of name involved with LCF: the statement "it still requires energetic deuterons" means the deuterons still have to be hot. the original cold fusion experiments explanation was lattice confinement in heavy metal (i.e. large electron clouds) like Pt/Pd plus energetic deuterons. What was very unclear is where those deuterons got their energy. It was theorized something along the lines that high electrostatic charges in the metal cracks accelerate the deuterons, etc. Unfortunately pseudo-scientificity got somehow attached to that research, and that for decades prevented any meaningful research into the source of those deuterons and how to efficiently increase their number and/or how to efficiently add another source. Only passage of time and the name change to LCF - marketing, yea! - has allowed to restart the research, though still without due credit to the original research.

pdonis 5y ago
> What was very unclear is where those deuterons got their energy. Yes, and that was because no energy source was being used to start the reaction; the metal with deuterons in it was just sitting there. In these experiments, an energy source (gamma rays) is used to heat up the deuterons to start the reaction. That's a key difference, and it's why a different term from "cold fusion" is entirely appropriate.
- drran 5y ago
  Cosmic gamma-rays and cosmic muons are energetic enough to start a reaction, so LENR devices are just boosters. IMHO, it explains why some labs in mountains are able to reproduce experiment, while other labs cannot. I had plans to put a charged LENR device on a plane, to test that. If this is true, then LENR can be used to power cosmic apparatus in deep space. Maybe, it can power airplanes on distant routes also, like solar panels, but 24x7.
- trhway 5y ago
  strictly speaking there was an energy source doing water hydrolysis though of course there is no known machinery for that to result in such energetic deuterons.

by trhway 5y ago

pdonis 5y ago

> What was very unclear is where those deuterons got their energy. Yes, and that was because no energy source was being used to start the reaction; the metal with deuterons in it was just sitting there. In these experiments, an energy source (gamma rays) is used to heat up the deuterons to start the reaction. That's a key difference, and it's why a different term from "cold fusion" is entirely appropriate.

drran 5y ago
Cosmic gamma-rays and cosmic muons are energetic enough to start a reaction, so LENR devices are just boosters. IMHO, it explains why some labs in mountains are able to reproduce experiment, while other labs cannot. I had plans to put a charged LENR device on a plane, to test that. If this is true, then LENR can be used to power cosmic apparatus in deep space. Maybe, it can power airplanes on distant routes also, like solar panels, but 24x7.
trhway 5y ago
strictly speaking there was an energy source doing water hydrolysis though of course there is no known machinery for that to result in such energetic deuterons.