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I'm moving our of Russia with my family. I was glad that my business was already outside of it. Now this domain stuff just added up to a pile of problems I must

I'm moving our of Russia with my family. I was glad that my business was already outside of it. Now this domain stuff just added up to a pile of problems I must solve. And the effect is negative - I moved domains out of NameCheap to Russia simply because any other US or EU based registrar can do the same crazy thing and are not trusted. So Putin's regime actually got more money out of this.

NamecheapCEO 5y ago
Sure but I don't want our company to be a factor in that contribution. I'm sure there are plenty of others out there willing to take the money and provide these services. If there are anti-government non profits out there, We'll consider keeping those up with us if you'd still want anything to do with us. If you are no longer based in Russia and not doing business there, we'll consider that as well.
- yooga 5y ago
  your support team does not think so
  - bombcar 5y ago
    The continued refrain of “contact our currently being bombed support teams” has got to be the most amusing part of this whole thing - for those watching from the outside.
polack 5y ago
- exizt88 5y ago
  No value was created out of them moving these domains. It's not like Namecheap is doing any good here. They're just posturing without actually helping anyone with this move or affecting real change.
  - polack 5y ago
    Do you really think all these sanctions against Russia won't have any effect? The more countries and companies that join in, the faster the results will come. The Russian masses cannot put a blind eye to what their government are doing any more. I find it really distasteful that a couple of you cannot even be bothered to transfer some domains. You know what your taxes are funding right now don't you???
    - Pr0Ger 5y ago
      Try to understand difference between government and ordinary citizens who got beaten by police, thrown in jail, poisoned by chemical weapon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexei_Navalny https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexei_Navalny or even killed for their protest action https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Boris_Nemtsov https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Boris_Nemtsov And right now more than 7000 people already arrested in Russia for participating in anti-war protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_anti-war_protests_in_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_anti-war_protests_in_Russ... . Sorry we didn't trying hard enough!
      - kristofferR 5y ago
        It's a good start, but 7000 is puny for a population of 144 million. Ironically, I think the 2014 Revolution of Dignity would be a good inspiration. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity So far it seems like the police are being allowed to arrest protesters, no one/very few fights back with molotov cocktails like they did in Ukraine in 2014.
      - polack 5y ago
        I’m truly sorry for all honest Russians that don’t support their government and what’s going on. But the world cannot let Putin go on and there is only two ways of doing that; military action that will result in full nuclear war or pushing the Russian population to step up and overthrow your government.
    - 5y ago
- fmcoder 5y ago
  I don't. I just don't see a logic in this. Our government and Russian people are different realities. We just happen to reside on the same territory. It's easy to say sitting on your couch "why don't you protest" or "why didn't you flee the country" when it's not you who has to do it.
  - polack 5y ago
    You fund the attacks on Ukraine whether you want it or not. Nobody is targetting you specifically, but transfering a couple of domains as collateral damage isn't that much problems is it? And while you think of a response to that, keep in mind that your tax money is funding attacks on innocent civilians, as in bombing them.
  - jventura 5y ago
    Either you care or not, your government represents the russian people for all the world. I know that individual people should not be blamed, and I'm really sorry that you guys are in the middle of this shit, but the rest of the world has no other effective way of showing to the russian government our disagreement with what they’re doing.
    - exizt88 5y ago
      Thinking that "your government represent your people for all the world" is a really privileged point of view.
      - jventura 5y ago
        Political representation of a country. Should have been more explicit..
    - concinds 5y ago
      > your government represents the russian people That's the exact sentiment (along with the "please don't play the pity card" comment higher up) that's leading average Westerners to assault ethnic-Russian or Russian-speaking people living in the West, who have absolutely zero to do with the Russian government. And it's the same sentiment that lead to the rise in anti-Asian hate & violence in the last few years. When average people become an acceptable target, it's (at least implicitly) dehumanizing. Regardless of whether people like you would endorse that violence (I'm sure you never would), we've seen where this rhetoric leads. There's the same classic motte-and-bailey as with coronavirus ("we're really just calling out the government, not the people"), except in the current Russian case, there's a lot more motte than bailey since citizens are explicitly an accepted target.
56V9qtdGKWy4q8p 5y ago
You're just the average russian right now. Complaining when the war pulls them out from their comfortable orwellian reality. No social network, e-payments, entertainment and start to cry. Where were you last Wednesday for instance, hours before the "pacification" took place? Not complaining perhaps, not doing anything. Not doing anything
- fmcoder 5y ago

NamecheapCEO 5y ago

Sure but I don't want our company to be a factor in that contribution. I'm sure there are plenty of others out there willing to take the money and provide these services. If there are anti-government non profits out there, We'll consider keeping those up with us if you'd still want anything to do with us. If you are no longer based in Russia and not doing business there, we'll consider that as well.

yooga 5y ago
your support team does not think so
- bombcar 5y ago
  The continued refrain of “contact our currently being bombed support teams” has got to be the most amusing part of this whole thing - for those watching from the outside.

polack 5y ago

exizt88 5y ago
No value was created out of them moving these domains. It's not like Namecheap is doing any good here. They're just posturing without actually helping anyone with this move or affecting real change.
- polack 5y ago
  Do you really think all these sanctions against Russia won't have any effect? The more countries and companies that join in, the faster the results will come. The Russian masses cannot put a blind eye to what their government are doing any more. I find it really distasteful that a couple of you cannot even be bothered to transfer some domains. You know what your taxes are funding right now don't you???
  - Pr0Ger 5y ago
    Try to understand difference between government and ordinary citizens who got beaten by police, thrown in jail, poisoned by chemical weapon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexei_Navalny https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexei_Navalny or even killed for their protest action https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Boris_Nemtsov https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Boris_Nemtsov And right now more than 7000 people already arrested in Russia for participating in anti-war protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_anti-war_protests_in_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_anti-war_protests_in_Russ... . Sorry we didn't trying hard enough!
    - kristofferR 5y ago
      It's a good start, but 7000 is puny for a population of 144 million. Ironically, I think the 2014 Revolution of Dignity would be a good inspiration. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity So far it seems like the police are being allowed to arrest protesters, no one/very few fights back with molotov cocktails like they did in Ukraine in 2014.
    - polack 5y ago
      I’m truly sorry for all honest Russians that don’t support their government and what’s going on. But the world cannot let Putin go on and there is only two ways of doing that; military action that will result in full nuclear war or pushing the Russian population to step up and overthrow your government.
  - 5y ago
fmcoder 5y ago
I don't. I just don't see a logic in this. Our government and Russian people are different realities. We just happen to reside on the same territory. It's easy to say sitting on your couch "why don't you protest" or "why didn't you flee the country" when it's not you who has to do it.
- polack 5y ago
  You fund the attacks on Ukraine whether you want it or not. Nobody is targetting you specifically, but transfering a couple of domains as collateral damage isn't that much problems is it? And while you think of a response to that, keep in mind that your tax money is funding attacks on innocent civilians, as in bombing them.
- jventura 5y ago
  Either you care or not, your government represents the russian people for all the world. I know that individual people should not be blamed, and I'm really sorry that you guys are in the middle of this shit, but the rest of the world has no other effective way of showing to the russian government our disagreement with what they’re doing.
  - exizt88 5y ago
    Thinking that "your government represent your people for all the world" is a really privileged point of view.
    - jventura 5y ago
      Political representation of a country. Should have been more explicit..
  - concinds 5y ago
    > your government represents the russian people That's the exact sentiment (along with the "please don't play the pity card" comment higher up) that's leading average Westerners to assault ethnic-Russian or Russian-speaking people living in the West, who have absolutely zero to do with the Russian government. And it's the same sentiment that lead to the rise in anti-Asian hate & violence in the last few years. When average people become an acceptable target, it's (at least implicitly) dehumanizing. Regardless of whether people like you would endorse that violence (I'm sure you never would), we've seen where this rhetoric leads. There's the same classic motte-and-bailey as with coronavirus ("we're really just calling out the government, not the people"), except in the current Russian case, there's a lot more motte than bailey since citizens are explicitly an accepted target.

56V9qtdGKWy4q8p 5y ago

You're just the average russian right now. Complaining when the war pulls them out from their comfortable orwellian reality. No social network, e-payments, entertainment and start to cry. Where were you last Wednesday for instance, hours before the "pacification" took place? Not complaining perhaps, not doing anything. Not doing anything

fmcoder 5y ago