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Possibly Burroughs MCP[0] from 1961, currently Unisys ClearPath MCP. Not to be confused with Encom MCP[1], which was defeated by Flynn and Tron in 1982. [0]ht
by nix0n 5y ago
Possibly Burroughs MCP[0] from 1961, currently Unisys ClearPath MCP.
Not to be confused with Encom MCP[1], which was defeated by Flynn and Tron in 1982.
[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burroughs_MCP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burroughs_MCP
[1]https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084827/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084827/
- rbanffy 5y ago> Not to be confused with Encom MCP MCP is the most user hostile OS I've ever seen. It may be less intelligent, but shows the same contempt for users as its fictional counterpart.
- pjmlp 5y agoSafety first has a price.
- rbanffy 5y agoYou can't hack an OS you can't use.
- annoyingnoob 5y agoI worked on an HP3000 in the early 90s. It had a software package that changed all of the error messages to resemble IBM360 error messages, just to throw would be attackers off.
- gnu8 5y agoWas that package really intended to be a security feature? To me that seems like a low effort way of landing a contract with an over-specific requirement. But security practices used to be way different so that explanation is also plausible.
- annoyingnoob 5y agoIt was one feature of a security package. I honestly don't recall the name. I should clarify that I'm talking about error messages one might see during login. Not system-wide/post-login error messages. Looked like an IBM login but got you into an HP.
- mgsouth 5y agoWhat? Was this something on the CSL (Contributed Software Library)? Don't recall anything like that... Besides... I'd expect something emulating S/3x. You could alter the system message catalog however you liked... Sounds like something that would happen to Whitman College's system :)
- pjmlp 5y agoIf no one could use the OS it wouldn't have survived longer than UNIX, and still be the option to go for high security deployments in some specific workloads.
- rbanffy 5y agoI'm joking, of course. You CAN use MCP, if you need to. It won't be a pleasant experience, however. It can sense your fear.
- oh_sigh 5y agoNot surprising, considering the "guardian" process is called J_EDGAR_HOOVER. Rumor has it it will even drop fake emails in your inbox urging you to kill yourself if your username starts with MLK_
- nograpes 5y agoWas the MLK_ thing a joke? If not, could you provide a reference?
- oh_sigh 5y agoSorry, yes. The J_EDGAR_HOOVER guardian process is actually real, but the MLK_ thing is something I just made up, based on the very real J Edgar Hoover sending Martin Luther King Jr a letter encouraging him to commit suicide.
- tasty_freeze 5y agoNot a joke. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FBI%E2%80%93King_suicide_letter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FBI%E2%80%93King_suicide_lette...
- jounker 5y agoWasn’t Encom MCP. just a rebranded vmunix.el?
- duxup 5y agoPossibly late/ silly question. Who would be using Burroughs MCP now and…why? Just for fun?
- EvanAnderson 5y agoThe last I saw it was a small bank using it to support a Fiserv ITI installation. That was ~2010. They'd been on the platform since the 70s. Were they not bought-out by a larger bank I'd expect they'd still be on that platform.
- specialist 5y agoAs of 2014, Univ of Washington had a Unisys for course catalog, registration, transcripts, etc. Ironically, they were one of the earliest adopters of IT. And could never figure out how to move forward. Dysfunction is unbounded.
- Schiendelman 5y agoI know someone who worked on it at least that long. I think it’s been replaced now but I’m not entirely sure.
- pjmlp 5y agoGiven its high security profile (ESPOL/NEWP belong to the first wave of safe systems programming languages), mostly governments or industries that want safety before anything else. That is also the marketing messages when you check ClearPath MCP marketing materials.