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One fun aspect of this is that it meets the legal bar for the kind of contests that are pretty regulated. As such, they include an extensive terms and condition
by 6gvONxR4sf7o 5y ago
One fun aspect of this is that it meets the legal bar for the kind of contests that are pretty regulated. As such, they include an extensive terms and conditions pdf, which happens to contain a section on conduct and cheating.
The tension between the T&Cs and the spirit of the contest is delicious.
So the main site and the spirit of the contest says "Everyone will be cheating, and we don't care. Cheating is a legitimate test-taking strategy."
Meanwhile the terms includes all sorts of things, including disallowing whatever the purveyors consider "unsportsmanlike" conduct. The whole section is vague enough to be fun to think about. (edit: removed the exact quote. it's long and didn't add much)
I certainly know where I would draw the line between the kind of cheating allowed and the kind of cheating not allowed, but I expect we'd find a wide variety of where even HN readers would draw that line.
- legalcorrection 5y agoFull context makes it a bit more clear. I don't think you can reasonably argue this is an invitation to hack. But yeah, interesting point. "Unlike typical standardized tests, the MSAT is taken online and in private. Everyone will be cheating, and we don’t care. Cheating is a legitimate test-taking strategy."
- opportune 5y agoWell it wouldn’t be very fun or fair if the allowed cheating included stealing/getting the answer sheet from the organizers. There’s a difference between that and the test being “open book”. An open book test is barely even helpful for something like the SAT, assuming you can’t find the answers to the actual questions online