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> You give someone a range, say $100-150k. I ASSURE you that they are thinking they are closer to 150k than 100. So good luck giving an offer for $100k, even th

> You give someone a range, say $100-150k. I ASSURE you that they are thinking they are closer to 150k than 100. So good luck giving an offer for $100k, even though that might be what that particular candidate is worth to you. This comes across as whining that you won't enjoy the same unfair advantage in negotiation as you previously enjoyed. Interviewees are almost universally expected to give a single number (not a range), sometimes in the application process, even before the interview. If I can put a single number on what I'm looking to be paid with incomplete information about the position, you can put a single number on what you're willing to pay with incomplete information about the candidate. Also, a range as broad as $100-150k tells me that you either don't know what candidate you're looking for, or you're trying to snag a $150k candidate and only pay them $100k. There's no way I'd apply for that job as anything other than the lower end of that range. A healthy business relationship starts from understanding that both interviewer and interviewee should have the same goal, trying to match an appropriate candidate with appropriate work and appropriate pay.

jjav 5y ago
> If I can put a single number on what I'm looking to be paid with incomplete information about the position, you can put a single number on what you're willing to pay with incomplete information about the candidate. To be fair, that's not true. One person interviewing can say what number will make them happy to consider a move. The company though, is open (usually) to all kinds of people who might fill the role. These people may range from a recent graduate to someone with tons of experience. Just depends who shows up and how good of a match they are. Open positions are hardly ever so statically fixed, there's always room to make the scope (and pay) smaller or larger, depending who shows up. Software roles are fairly open-ended on what the person will ultimately end up doing, so it'll depend on their experience and interests. It's not like hiring someone for a widget factory where I know in advance they'll be stamping widgets 8 hours a day. In such cases, the pay can be predicted easily.
sneak 5y ago
> Interviewees are almost universally expected to give a single number (not a range), sometimes in the application process, even before the interview. I think a better description of the situation is "prompted" or "demanded", not "expected". As many interviewing advice sites will happily point out, providing any salary information prior to an offer is not usually a hard requirement (though employers like to make it seem like it is).

jjav 5y ago

> If I can put a single number on what I'm looking to be paid with incomplete information about the position, you can put a single number on what you're willing to pay with incomplete information about the candidate. To be fair, that's not true. One person interviewing can say what number will make them happy to consider a move. The company though, is open (usually) to all kinds of people who might fill the role. These people may range from a recent graduate to someone with tons of experience. Just depends who shows up and how good of a match they are. Open positions are hardly ever so statically fixed, there's always room to make the scope (and pay) smaller or larger, depending who shows up. Software roles are fairly open-ended on what the person will ultimately end up doing, so it'll depend on their experience and interests. It's not like hiring someone for a widget factory where I know in advance they'll be stamping widgets 8 hours a day. In such cases, the pay can be predicted easily.

sneak 5y ago

> Interviewees are almost universally expected to give a single number (not a range), sometimes in the application process, even before the interview. I think a better description of the situation is "prompted" or "demanded", not "expected". As many interviewing advice sites will happily point out, providing any salary information prior to an offer is not usually a hard requirement (though employers like to make it seem like it is).