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I assume it's not illegal to negotiate a salary that is higher than the range stated in the job posting. Hopefully companies don't start using the job posting

I assume it's not illegal to negotiate a salary that is higher than the range stated in the job posting. Hopefully companies don't start using the job posting as an excuse not to negotiate higher salaries, otherwise it could depress wages for highly qualified applicants.

t-writescode 5y ago
Why not pay everyone correctly rather than forcing your future employees to fight hard to get their valid wage?
- twblalock 5y ago
  "Pay everyone correctly" is a loaded statement. So is "valid wage." These things are determined by the market and what a candidate brings to the table -- not just by the job itself.
  - t-writescode 5y ago
    Realistically, companies try to pay their future employees as low as possible. Someone comes along that chooses to be a so-called "better negotiator" and they get paid more. Why should people have to play the negotiation game? "What a candidate brings to the table" is likely defined in a leveling guideline. If they bring more to the table, maybe they should be in a different bracket. If someone is so special (and 99.9% of the people aren't), then maybe give them their own special role with special titles; but we're not talking about exceptional people here, we're talking about an average developer at this company, which I hope has an average relative skill level. Sure, one person may be better at X or Y and worse at Z than another but that's why we have several people: distributing load and specialization.
llbeansandrice 5y ago
If the applicant is highly qualified, wouldn't they be able to get offers from other companies that are higher? I see this as a personal issue: you gotta apply to jobs you don't think you're qualified for and be okay with being told "no" sometimes. If you don't test the upper-bound, you'll never find it.

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I assume it's not illegal to negotiate a salary that is higher than the range stated in the job posting. Hopefully companies don't start using the job posting

by twblalock 5y ago

t-writescode 5y ago
Why not pay everyone correctly rather than forcing your future employees to fight hard to get their valid wage?
- twblalock 5y ago
  "Pay everyone correctly" is a loaded statement. So is "valid wage." These things are determined by the market and what a candidate brings to the table -- not just by the job itself.
  - t-writescode 5y ago
    Realistically, companies try to pay their future employees as low as possible. Someone comes along that chooses to be a so-called "better negotiator" and they get paid more. Why should people have to play the negotiation game? "What a candidate brings to the table" is likely defined in a leveling guideline. If they bring more to the table, maybe they should be in a different bracket. If someone is so special (and 99.9% of the people aren't), then maybe give them their own special role with special titles; but we're not talking about exceptional people here, we're talking about an average developer at this company, which I hope has an average relative skill level. Sure, one person may be better at X or Y and worse at Z than another but that's why we have several people: distributing load and specialization.
llbeansandrice 5y ago
If the applicant is highly qualified, wouldn't they be able to get offers from other companies that are higher? I see this as a personal issue: you gotta apply to jobs you don't think you're qualified for and be okay with being told "no" sometimes. If you don't test the upper-bound, you'll never find it.