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Make Linux look like Mac OS 9

whalesalad 5y ago
I’m still trying to sort out macOS keybindings on Linux. I put Arch (EndeavorOS) on a 2015-ish Retina MBP and everything “just works” much to my surprise. If I can sort out keybindings I could probably switch 100% but the inconsistency of clipboard actions from app to app is extremely frustrating.
- boudin 5y ago
  Usually it's only in terminals that ctrl+c is mapped to BREAK signal instead of copy. Most terminal emulators allows you to remap copy and paste shortcuts. If you remap those to ctrl+c and ctrl+v, you can then have a consistent behaviour behind ctrl+c/v
- leejoramo 5y ago
  Have you seen Kinto? It goes a long way to getting full macOS style key bindings https://kinto.sh/ https://kinto.sh/
- mercnet 5y ago
  Check out https://medium.com/@canadaduane/key-remapping-in-linux-2021-edition-47320999d2aa https://medium.com/@canadaduane/key-remapping-in-linux-2021-... for ideas. I plan on trying https://github.com/rvaiya/keyd https://github.com/rvaiya/keyd on my new setup.
rzzzt 5y ago
"Make Linux look like BeOS 5" when?
- blacksmith_tb 5y ago
  I'm more a Gnome person myself but there is this[1] if you use KDE. 1: https://store.kde.org/p/1018166/ https://store.kde.org/p/1018166/
- gandalfff 5y ago
  This might be up your alley. https://www.reddit.com/r/UsabilityPorn/comments/raqjcy/lxde_beos_nostalgia_for_my_freebsd/ https://www.reddit.com/r/UsabilityPorn/comments/raqjcy/lxde_...
- lproven 5y ago
  ZevenOS did a remarkably good job of this: http://www.zevenos.com/ http://www.zevenos.com/ Their screenshot gallery gave an idea: http://www.zevenos.com/screenshots/screenshots-zevenos http://www.zevenos.com/screenshots/screenshots-zevenos A mini-review from back then: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/ZevenOS-5-0-delivers-an-early-Christmas-present-1763844.html http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/ZevenOS-5-0-delivers-... I know, old -- but there are some comments in Haiku groups in various places that they are planning a relaunch. It was a good-looking distro. I ran it for a while, and while it was basically Xubuntu but themed, it was very _nicely_ themed. Looked good, felt good, worked well. If you liked BeOS, which I did, a lot.
  - rzzzt 5y ago
    Is there any connection to Zeta?
    - lproven 5y ago
      As in yellowTab Zeta, the OS? No. That was a (possibly unauthorised) version of what would have been the next version of BeOS, a beta codenamed "Dano". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BeOS_R5.1d0 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BeOS_R5.1d0 There's a copy on the Internet Archive: https://archive.org/details/archiveorg_malenki_Zeta https://archive.org/details/archiveorg_malenki_Zeta
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bW9yYgo 5y ago
I miss the old E16 themes that mimicked other operating system's UIs.
- mech422 5y ago
  Enlightenment is still going :-) (1) and E16 had a release last November(2). Seems like Raster is still active as well ! :-D 'dharrop' seems to have a big repo of E16 themes (3) 1) https://www.enlightenment.org https://www.enlightenment.org 2) https://www.enlightenment.org/e16 https://www.enlightenment.org/e16 3) https://github.com/dharrop/themes https://github.com/dharrop/themes
  - bW9yYgo 5y ago
    Heck yeah! I've stuck with E over the past few decades and took the journey from E16 to 0.25.1 :)
doggydogs94 5y ago
Of course, the only command line in OS 9 was the MPW Shell.
- lproven 5y ago
  You say that like it's a bad thing.
BugsJustFindMe 5y ago
I'd like to make macOS look like Mac OS 9.
4ff618 5y ago
i really want a KDE plasma theme for windows 10
anthk 5y ago
I'd prefer Mac OS System 7, a bit cleaner.
- yourapostasy 5y ago
  Not only cleaner, but a crisp, ultra-low latency responsiveness in the Finder that I call "movie UI quick", or "blank document UI quick". You don't see that kind of crisp/snap except in movies or when opening a new blank document. Other applications varied in that crispness, but were generally good. I don't see much of that crispness these days on Linux, macOS, or Windows, but we're dealing with so much vastly more capacity and capabilities that I don't much begrudge modern UI's their relative slowness as it isn't mostly under their control. Ironically, on the web we're replaying a throwback to the "smart" mainframe terminals of yesteryear. But adoption of more intelligent UI mechanics (client-side caching of data in databases, streaming-to-cache scrolling lists so only the visible part of the list is rendered first, predictive filling of lists beyond the canvas-visible portion, etc.) to squeeze through rough/slow connections is slowly catching on. Meta and everyone else playing around with VR/AR will need all those techniques and more to render the kind of properties they envision into mainstream contexts.
musicale 5y ago
There's a lot to like about 1990s UI designs - for example, they tend to have clearly delineated controls and to be more easily discoverable. The spatially-oriented Finder of classic Mac OS has some nice properties as well, such as visual stability and a 1:1 mapping between windows and folders.
- Saint_Genet 5y ago
  I remember when Nautilus went spatial per default. The flamewars went on for months.

I’m still trying to sort out macOS keybindings on Linux. I put Arch (EndeavorOS) on a 2015-ish Retina MBP and everything “just works” much to my surprise. If I can sort out keybindings I could probably switch 100% but the inconsistency of clipboard actions from app to app is extremely frustrating.

boudin 5y ago
Usually it's only in terminals that ctrl+c is mapped to BREAK signal instead of copy. Most terminal emulators allows you to remap copy and paste shortcuts. If you remap those to ctrl+c and ctrl+v, you can then have a consistent behaviour behind ctrl+c/v
leejoramo 5y ago
Have you seen Kinto? It goes a long way to getting full macOS style key bindings https://kinto.sh/ https://kinto.sh/
mercnet 5y ago
Check out https://medium.com/@canadaduane/key-remapping-in-linux-2021-edition-47320999d2aa https://medium.com/@canadaduane/key-remapping-in-linux-2021-... for ideas. I plan on trying https://github.com/rvaiya/keyd https://github.com/rvaiya/keyd on my new setup.

rzzzt 5y ago

"Make Linux look like BeOS 5" when?

blacksmith_tb 5y ago
I'm more a Gnome person myself but there is this[1] if you use KDE. 1: https://store.kde.org/p/1018166/ https://store.kde.org/p/1018166/
gandalfff 5y ago
This might be up your alley. https://www.reddit.com/r/UsabilityPorn/comments/raqjcy/lxde_beos_nostalgia_for_my_freebsd/ https://www.reddit.com/r/UsabilityPorn/comments/raqjcy/lxde_...
lproven 5y ago
ZevenOS did a remarkably good job of this: http://www.zevenos.com/ http://www.zevenos.com/ Their screenshot gallery gave an idea: http://www.zevenos.com/screenshots/screenshots-zevenos http://www.zevenos.com/screenshots/screenshots-zevenos A mini-review from back then: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/ZevenOS-5-0-delivers-an-early-Christmas-present-1763844.html http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/ZevenOS-5-0-delivers-... I know, old -- but there are some comments in Haiku groups in various places that they are planning a relaunch. It was a good-looking distro. I ran it for a while, and while it was basically Xubuntu but themed, it was very _nicely_ themed. Looked good, felt good, worked well. If you liked BeOS, which I did, a lot.
- rzzzt 5y ago
  Is there any connection to Zeta?
  - lproven 5y ago
    As in yellowTab Zeta, the OS? No. That was a (possibly unauthorised) version of what would have been the next version of BeOS, a beta codenamed "Dano". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BeOS_R5.1d0 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BeOS_R5.1d0 There's a copy on the Internet Archive: https://archive.org/details/archiveorg_malenki_Zeta https://archive.org/details/archiveorg_malenki_Zeta
- deleted 5y ago
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bW9yYgo 5y ago

I miss the old E16 themes that mimicked other operating system's UIs.

mech422 5y ago
Enlightenment is still going :-) (1) and E16 had a release last November(2). Seems like Raster is still active as well ! :-D 'dharrop' seems to have a big repo of E16 themes (3) 1) https://www.enlightenment.org https://www.enlightenment.org 2) https://www.enlightenment.org/e16 https://www.enlightenment.org/e16 3) https://github.com/dharrop/themes https://github.com/dharrop/themes
- bW9yYgo 5y ago
  Heck yeah! I've stuck with E over the past few decades and took the journey from E16 to 0.25.1 :)

doggydogs94 5y ago

Of course, the only command line in OS 9 was the MPW Shell.

lproven 5y ago
You say that like it's a bad thing.

BugsJustFindMe 5y ago

I'd like to make macOS look like Mac OS 9.

4ff618 5y ago

i really want a KDE plasma theme for windows 10

anthk 5y ago

I'd prefer Mac OS System 7, a bit cleaner.

yourapostasy 5y ago
Not only cleaner, but a crisp, ultra-low latency responsiveness in the Finder that I call "movie UI quick", or "blank document UI quick". You don't see that kind of crisp/snap except in movies or when opening a new blank document. Other applications varied in that crispness, but were generally good. I don't see much of that crispness these days on Linux, macOS, or Windows, but we're dealing with so much vastly more capacity and capabilities that I don't much begrudge modern UI's their relative slowness as it isn't mostly under their control. Ironically, on the web we're replaying a throwback to the "smart" mainframe terminals of yesteryear. But adoption of more intelligent UI mechanics (client-side caching of data in databases, streaming-to-cache scrolling lists so only the visible part of the list is rendered first, predictive filling of lists beyond the canvas-visible portion, etc.) to squeeze through rough/slow connections is slowly catching on. Meta and everyone else playing around with VR/AR will need all those techniques and more to render the kind of properties they envision into mainstream contexts.

musicale 5y ago

There's a lot to like about 1990s UI designs - for example, they tend to have clearly delineated controls and to be more easily discoverable. The spatially-oriented Finder of classic Mac OS has some nice properties as well, such as visual stability and a 1:1 mapping between windows and folders.

Saint_Genet 5y ago
I remember when Nautilus went spatial per default. The flamewars went on for months.