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I'm talking about practice, not theory. You can buy waterfall keyboards easily enough. There is no equivalent for the electric piano. There are only three or so

I'm talking about practice, not theory. You can buy waterfall keyboards easily enough. There is no equivalent for the electric piano. There are only three or so Rhodes simulations on the market... Arturia, Lounge Lizard, Clavia Lab... Clavia Lab seems defunct, maybe reducing this list to two. The Hammond simulation is just way easier. As a player, you're manipulating a bunch of key switches. The circuitry inside may have a lot of quirks, but those quirks are just a lot simpler to model than a Rhodes. Leslie simulation is something else... IMO, buying a real Leslie or DIYing something similar is far more convenient than buying a B3, and far less expensive than buying a Rhodes. Part of the price here is that a B3 is almost 200 kg. Maybe Rhodes simulations have gotten better since the last time I used them. I have an old keyboard from circa 2010, it's not designed specifically for organ players but even so the Hammond patches are pretty damn good... but the Rhodes patches leave a lot to be desired. Getting a good Hammond sound out of some kind of simulation is just so much easier than getting a good Rhodes sound.

mastazi 5y ago
I get what you're saying. > DIYing something similar is far more convenient than buying a B3 I wonder if they will start doing something like Hauptwerk organs[1] but for Hammond emulation. Currently I even struggle to find dual keyboard waterfall midi controller[2]. If it was easier I would install something like the software version of the Crumar (Gsi) and I would build my own. But I don't have time to do things like buying a Fatar waterfall and do the low level work. [1] https://www.hauptwerk.com/hardware/ https://www.hauptwerk.com/hardware/ [2] This is one of only 2 controllers I am aware of, that are specifically for Hammond emulation https://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=showproduct&b=42 https://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=showproduct&b=42
- klodolph 5y ago
  You can also get a keyboard from Hammond with two manuals and pedals. IMO, if you care about your controller to that extent, it’s going to be a bit of a pain even for normal synth action. The only way I end up happy with a keyboard controller is when I go into a store and abuse a really abuse display model for a few minutes. I currently use reasonably high-end synthesizers as master controllers just for the better keybed they come with.
  - mastazi 5y ago
    Yeah I wish I was in North America so I could buy a broken Hammond for cheap and convert it to a controller

mastazi 5y ago

I get what you're saying. > DIYing something similar is far more convenient than buying a B3 I wonder if they will start doing something like Hauptwerk organs[1] but for Hammond emulation. Currently I even struggle to find dual keyboard waterfall midi controller[2]. If it was easier I would install something like the software version of the Crumar (Gsi) and I would build my own. But I don't have time to do things like buying a Fatar waterfall and do the low level work. [1] https://www.hauptwerk.com/hardware/ https://www.hauptwerk.com/hardware/ [2] This is one of only 2 controllers I am aware of, that are specifically for Hammond emulation https://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=showproduct&b=42 https://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=showproduct&b=42

klodolph 5y ago
You can also get a keyboard from Hammond with two manuals and pedals. IMO, if you care about your controller to that extent, it’s going to be a bit of a pain even for normal synth action. The only way I end up happy with a keyboard controller is when I go into a store and abuse a really abuse display model for a few minutes. I currently use reasonably high-end synthesizers as master controllers just for the better keybed they come with.
- mastazi 5y ago
  Yeah I wish I was in North America so I could buy a broken Hammond for cheap and convert it to a controller