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Why is it so impossible for these people/organizations to accept that they made a mistake and own up to it? The entire response by the State Bar of California i

Why is it so impossible for these people/organizations to accept that they made a mistake and own up to it? The entire response by the State Bar of California is nothing but a deflection of blame that rests solely on themselves and their chosen vendor(s). What are they going to do next, call Missouri's governor and ask for the playbook to follow? The humans behind the scenes at the bar are looking incredibly pathetic here.

vore 5y ago
They did, see the update: https://www.calbar.ca.gov/About-Us/News/Data-Breach-Updates https://www.calbar.ca.gov/About-Us/News/Data-Breach-Updates They have nothing but praise for the judyrecords owner, actually!
xbar 5y ago
Agreed. Closing with "Law enforcement has been notified" doubles-down on "we published everything but maybe if we can get somebody charged for a bogus crime then we won't look so stupid."
KarlKemp 5y ago
They are lawyers. „Pathetic“ is the after-shave they use. “Liability” is the nickname for the kid they secretly loath. “Blame” is a verb.
sva_ 5y ago
> Why is it so impossible for these people/organizations to accept that they made a mistake and own up to it? Maybe they accept it, but just don't admit to their mistake. Seems to be a growing trend, unfortunately. Perhaps the result of a society who more and more punishes people for admitting to their mistakes, rather than rewarding them for admitting to it and learning from it. It's very sad to me, that this seems to be getting so much more common.
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duped 5y ago
There may be liability attached. But this reads more like "a lot of data that we assumed to be private, and legally must be kept private appeared on a website. Here's everything we know and the steps we have taken." Essentially what happens when there's a screw up and lawyers get consulted about how to disclose it.
dogleash 5y ago
>Why is it so impossible for these people/organizations to accept that they made a mistake and own up to it? Its the bar. Of all the organizations to respond like lawyers covering their own asses as hard as possible, you have to expect this one.
NightMKoder 5y ago
My sense that is that any written record (especially publicly posted records), an admittance of guilt can later be used as evidence in court. That is, if the bar needs to defend itself in court later, admitting guilt now would make that a lot harder. And they're a bunch of lawyers -- they likely know that.

vore 5y ago

They did, see the update: https://www.calbar.ca.gov/About-Us/News/Data-Breach-Updates https://www.calbar.ca.gov/About-Us/News/Data-Breach-Updates They have nothing but praise for the judyrecords owner, actually!

xbar 5y ago

Agreed. Closing with "Law enforcement has been notified" doubles-down on "we published everything but maybe if we can get somebody charged for a bogus crime then we won't look so stupid."

KarlKemp 5y ago

They are lawyers. „Pathetic“ is the after-shave they use. “Liability” is the nickname for the kid they secretly loath. “Blame” is a verb.

sva_ 5y ago

> Why is it so impossible for these people/organizations to accept that they made a mistake and own up to it? Maybe they accept it, but just don't admit to their mistake. Seems to be a growing trend, unfortunately. Perhaps the result of a society who more and more punishes people for admitting to their mistakes, rather than rewarding them for admitting to it and learning from it. It's very sad to me, that this seems to be getting so much more common.

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duped 5y ago

There may be liability attached. But this reads more like "a lot of data that we assumed to be private, and legally must be kept private appeared on a website. Here's everything we know and the steps we have taken." Essentially what happens when there's a screw up and lawyers get consulted about how to disclose it.

dogleash 5y ago

>Why is it so impossible for these people/organizations to accept that they made a mistake and own up to it? Its the bar. Of all the organizations to respond like lawyers covering their own asses as hard as possible, you have to expect this one.

NightMKoder 5y ago

My sense that is that any written record (especially publicly posted records), an admittance of guilt can later be used as evidence in court. That is, if the bar needs to defend itself in court later, admitting guilt now would make that a lot harder. And they're a bunch of lawyers -- they likely know that.