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I am of the generation that saw people being sent overseas just to die because, as many put it, "Bush lied". The world is an international community, we sink o

I am of the generation that saw people being sent overseas just to die because, as many put it, "Bush lied". The world is an international community, we sink or swim together. A tragedy in a faraway country is no different than one in my backyard.

jltsiren 5y ago
You are talking about things that happen in the news rather than in the everyday world around you. A lot of people in Finland may lose their jobs soon, because ~10% of foreign trade used to be with Russia. There is a feeling that the world has changed permanently, but nobody knows what will emerge. Ukraine is resisting the invasion, and ordinary people are sending money directly to its military. Even many activists on the left think that donating to traditional charities is insufficient. Meanwhile Russia seems to be only a shadow of its former self, which has awakened old fears of its collapse. And of refugee masses that could overwhelm Finland. And here in the US, you can easily ignore all that, because you don't see the consequences in your daily life.
- DiabloD3 5y ago
  Thats a rather ignorant statement, as if Americans somehow universally lack empathy.
  - jltsiren 5y ago
    How does empathy have anything to do with this discussion? We were talking about how it can be more difficult to ignore the war and focus on something else in Europe, because you may feel the consequences in your daily life. Giving the news only 15 minutes of your time every day is not a very effective strategy, if you keep encountering the thing you are trying to avoid outside news.
    - DiabloD3 5y ago
      If there is a war anywhere, it effects everyone, globally. I don't get why this is such a hard concept for people to understand.
      - jltsiren 5y ago
        There is always a war somewhere, but it doesn't affect everyone equally. For the average Finnish citizen, this is probably the first time since WW2 that a war is raging in the "real world" instead of just in the news. For the average American citizen, it doesn't look like the war has spilled from the news to the real world yet. Polish and Russian citizens see a bigger impact than Finnish citizens, and the impact on the average Ukrainian citizen is obviously far greater.

jltsiren 5y ago

You are talking about things that happen in the news rather than in the everyday world around you. A lot of people in Finland may lose their jobs soon, because ~10% of foreign trade used to be with Russia. There is a feeling that the world has changed permanently, but nobody knows what will emerge. Ukraine is resisting the invasion, and ordinary people are sending money directly to its military. Even many activists on the left think that donating to traditional charities is insufficient. Meanwhile Russia seems to be only a shadow of its former self, which has awakened old fears of its collapse. And of refugee masses that could overwhelm Finland. And here in the US, you can easily ignore all that, because you don't see the consequences in your daily life.

DiabloD3 5y ago
Thats a rather ignorant statement, as if Americans somehow universally lack empathy.
- jltsiren 5y ago
  How does empathy have anything to do with this discussion? We were talking about how it can be more difficult to ignore the war and focus on something else in Europe, because you may feel the consequences in your daily life. Giving the news only 15 minutes of your time every day is not a very effective strategy, if you keep encountering the thing you are trying to avoid outside news.
  - DiabloD3 5y ago
    If there is a war anywhere, it effects everyone, globally. I don't get why this is such a hard concept for people to understand.
    - jltsiren 5y ago
      There is always a war somewhere, but it doesn't affect everyone equally. For the average Finnish citizen, this is probably the first time since WW2 that a war is raging in the "real world" instead of just in the news. For the average American citizen, it doesn't look like the war has spilled from the news to the real world yet. Polish and Russian citizens see a bigger impact than Finnish citizens, and the impact on the average Ukrainian citizen is obviously far greater.