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There is no inconsistency. EU is probably welcoming of Ukraine, but obviously it cannot be in a territorial conflict when that happens. For NATO the apparent i
by alkonaut 5y ago
There is no inconsistency. EU is probably welcoming of Ukraine, but obviously it cannot be in a territorial conflict when that happens.
For NATO the apparent inconsistency is only apparent. It’s an important principle that Ukraine is free to apply or not apply for any membership they want. And similarly the countries within NATO are free to form alliances with whoever they want, so they are free to accept or reject an application from Ukraine. What’s the alternative? NATO accepting that Russia decides the international politics of other countries, because right now their opinions happen to align?
> It seems to me like the clear sensible political solution here is for all sides to guarantee the security and neutrality of Ukraine
It does seem reasonable. But how could Russia be trusted in the matter? And how could Ukraine trust the west to help them if Russia doesn’t live up to its part of the agreement? Ukraine gave up its nukes after the fall of the Soviet Union with security guarantees from the west. That didn’t work.
Any “neutral demilitarized Ukraine” seems it can only work if Ukraine is in a military alliance like NATO that would guarantee its safety. The negotiations about demilitarization make sense but would have to concern only what material can be on Ukraine territory, whether NATO excercies can take place there and so on. And on that it makes sense to go very non-confrontional. Norway has self-imposed such restrictions in the area closest to Russia for example: no excercises take place there and so on.
- yucky 5y ago>EU is probably welcoming of Ukraine I'm not an expert, but I believe there are economic metrics needed to even qualify, and Ukraine is far below those metrics.
- alkonaut 5y agoYes the EUs open arms are of course only “we hope you’ll soon fulfill the requirements” not “we want you to join so much well ignore the requirements”.