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3. Don't expect to fill your appetite.

by vincentmarle 5y ago

gnicholas 5y ago
My wife and I have gone to In-N-Out after fancy dinners on a number of occasions.
- 0_____0 5y ago
  how did that work out? the best meal i ever had in my life was at Bar Crudo on Divis in SF. owners pivoted to a taco place, for reasons unfathomable to me. had a dinner that blew my conception of food open, went to a show nearby after. got home at 3AM and made myself a bit of sausage and toast and to my surprise the experience of my prior meal persisted, and in contrast my late night snack seemed like it was made of cardboard.
  - gnicholas 5y ago
    Taste-wise, delicious! It is a bit odd to wear a tux or suit to an In-N-Out at midnight, but after a few times you get used to it.
    - nomel 5y ago
      What's the main allure for you?
      - gnicholas 5y ago
        The burgers, for sure. I've never been a fan of their spongy fries. I'd be happy to eat elsewhere as well, but there aren't a lot of options at midnight.
        spear 5y ago
        I always order fries "well-done" at In-N-Out now.
        ghaff 5y ago
        For some reason I don't really understand, while I can't stand McDonalds in general, their fries are better than any of the "fast casual" places like Shake Shack, In-n-Out, etc. that I've encountered.
        gnicholas 5y ago
        McD partially fries and freezes their fries before fully frying them. [1] That probably makes them more crispy and tastier to many (myself included). In-N-Out uses fresh potatoes, which means no fry-freeze-fry. Five Guys has very crispy and tasty fries — especially the cajun style — that are not double fried. [2] 1: https://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/this-is-how-mcdonalds-makes-its-french-fries https://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/this-is-how-mcdonalds-mak... 2: https://www.delish.com/uk/food-news/a37315383/how-five-guys-makes-fries/ https://www.delish.com/uk/food-news/a37315383/how-five-guys-...
        ghaff 5y ago
        I admit I don't remember Five Guys fries as anything exceptional but maybe I haven't ever had them. Admittedly I find Five Guys pretty overrated and expensive generally so I eat them even more rarely than burger places generally.
        gnicholas 5y ago
        The burgers are overpriced compared to In-N-Out, but the lines are much shorter as a result. Fries aren't cheap, but 90% of the time a 'small' fries at Five Guys is bigger than a large anywhere else.
adra 5y ago
I've been to quite a few fine dining establishments that had very generous portions. The best advice I can give is always ask the waiter in order to gauge how much you should be ordering. As long as the restaurant isn't run by total assholes, you'll get an honest answer. Waiters want to make you happy as their generous tips are largely powered by your enjoyment. Having a miss-portioned meal and paying a fortune doesn't encourage a reasonable tip.
rhino369 5y ago
The portion sizes usually factor in that you'll be ordering appetizers or multiple courses. But that jacks up the price a ton.
joshuamorton 5y ago
I don't think I've ever seen a prix fixe/chef's selection menu that wasn't going to leave me absolutely stuffed. If you go somewhere and order a la carte and plan to spend "normal" nice restaurant prices (say, $30-40) sure you'll get a smaller size. But if you're spending like $70+, you'll almost always leave full. The one actually starred restaurant I went to, I skipped lunch and could still barely walk home it was so much food. 6-12 courses add up, even if they're small.
- seanp2k2 5y ago
  This; admittedly I have been eating smaller portion sizes in the past year or so but I've never left a tasting menu meal feeling hungry.
- william-evans 5y ago
  For me it’s not just the quantity of the food, it’s the richness of the food that leaves me consistently feeling full.
tashoecraft 5y ago
You really need to ask the waiter before hand. Often times at fancier restaurants you aren't expected to just order and entree and be full, and yet that's what some patrons expect. An example is high end Italian places will often have a pasta section at say 20-40/item and entree's 30-100's, and you think you can just order a pasta and have a good meal. Except you're really intended to order a couple appetizers, a pasta meal each and an entree. It's not them trying to take all your money, but it's what the normal clientele expect. It's also often what the food quality/prices demand. If it's a truly good restaurant (and not just an expensive one), you shouldn't be coming away hungry.
deanCommie 5y ago
Really depends on the appetite, and the restaurant. It's a bit like an art museum. You can go get a ticket to the Hermitage, and you would probably need 3 full days to see every single thing in it. For the same price, there might be some museum that shows only a few paintings. Does that mean the bigger museum the better the value? Kind of? If the goal is to get an experience, there are many ways to experience some emotions (and in the restaurant's case flavours) that won't lead to thorough "satiation", but would still be novel. Some museums are like that, and you'll want to go see an Avengers movie afterwards to satisfy your entertainment. Some restaurants are like that, and you'll hit MacDonalds on teh way back. But more often than not, Michelin-echelon restaurants will overwhelm you with a ton of tiny courses, by the end of which you will be fairly adequately stuffed.
- ghaff 5y ago
  3-4 hours is probably about the limit of how much time I can handle a given museum. Much past that, I'm "OK. It's a Rembrandt but it's not one of his really good ones." If it's the Hermitage, I'll make an exception but I'll really start zoning out after a while.

3. Don't expect to fill your appetite.

gnicholas 5y ago

My wife and I have gone to In-N-Out after fancy dinners on a number of occasions.

0_____0 5y ago
how did that work out? the best meal i ever had in my life was at Bar Crudo on Divis in SF. owners pivoted to a taco place, for reasons unfathomable to me. had a dinner that blew my conception of food open, went to a show nearby after. got home at 3AM and made myself a bit of sausage and toast and to my surprise the experience of my prior meal persisted, and in contrast my late night snack seemed like it was made of cardboard.
- gnicholas 5y ago
  Taste-wise, delicious! It is a bit odd to wear a tux or suit to an In-N-Out at midnight, but after a few times you get used to it.
  - nomel 5y ago
    What's the main allure for you?
    - gnicholas 5y ago
      The burgers, for sure. I've never been a fan of their spongy fries. I'd be happy to eat elsewhere as well, but there aren't a lot of options at midnight.
      - spear 5y ago
        I always order fries "well-done" at In-N-Out now.
      - ghaff 5y ago
        For some reason I don't really understand, while I can't stand McDonalds in general, their fries are better than any of the "fast casual" places like Shake Shack, In-n-Out, etc. that I've encountered.
        gnicholas 5y ago
        McD partially fries and freezes their fries before fully frying them. [1] That probably makes them more crispy and tastier to many (myself included). In-N-Out uses fresh potatoes, which means no fry-freeze-fry. Five Guys has very crispy and tasty fries — especially the cajun style — that are not double fried. [2] 1: https://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/this-is-how-mcdonalds-makes-its-french-fries https://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/this-is-how-mcdonalds-mak... 2: https://www.delish.com/uk/food-news/a37315383/how-five-guys-makes-fries/ https://www.delish.com/uk/food-news/a37315383/how-five-guys-...
        ghaff 5y ago
        I admit I don't remember Five Guys fries as anything exceptional but maybe I haven't ever had them. Admittedly I find Five Guys pretty overrated and expensive generally so I eat them even more rarely than burger places generally.
        gnicholas 5y ago
        The burgers are overpriced compared to In-N-Out, but the lines are much shorter as a result. Fries aren't cheap, but 90% of the time a 'small' fries at Five Guys is bigger than a large anywhere else.

adra 5y ago

I've been to quite a few fine dining establishments that had very generous portions. The best advice I can give is always ask the waiter in order to gauge how much you should be ordering. As long as the restaurant isn't run by total assholes, you'll get an honest answer. Waiters want to make you happy as their generous tips are largely powered by your enjoyment. Having a miss-portioned meal and paying a fortune doesn't encourage a reasonable tip.

rhino369 5y ago

The portion sizes usually factor in that you'll be ordering appetizers or multiple courses. But that jacks up the price a ton.

joshuamorton 5y ago

I don't think I've ever seen a prix fixe/chef's selection menu that wasn't going to leave me absolutely stuffed. If you go somewhere and order a la carte and plan to spend "normal" nice restaurant prices (say, $30-40) sure you'll get a smaller size. But if you're spending like $70+, you'll almost always leave full. The one actually starred restaurant I went to, I skipped lunch and could still barely walk home it was so much food. 6-12 courses add up, even if they're small.

seanp2k2 5y ago
This; admittedly I have been eating smaller portion sizes in the past year or so but I've never left a tasting menu meal feeling hungry.
william-evans 5y ago
For me it’s not just the quantity of the food, it’s the richness of the food that leaves me consistently feeling full.

tashoecraft 5y ago

You really need to ask the waiter before hand. Often times at fancier restaurants you aren't expected to just order and entree and be full, and yet that's what some patrons expect. An example is high end Italian places will often have a pasta section at say 20-40/item and entree's 30-100's, and you think you can just order a pasta and have a good meal. Except you're really intended to order a couple appetizers, a pasta meal each and an entree. It's not them trying to take all your money, but it's what the normal clientele expect. It's also often what the food quality/prices demand. If it's a truly good restaurant (and not just an expensive one), you shouldn't be coming away hungry.

deanCommie 5y ago

Really depends on the appetite, and the restaurant. It's a bit like an art museum. You can go get a ticket to the Hermitage, and you would probably need 3 full days to see every single thing in it. For the same price, there might be some museum that shows only a few paintings. Does that mean the bigger museum the better the value? Kind of? If the goal is to get an experience, there are many ways to experience some emotions (and in the restaurant's case flavours) that won't lead to thorough "satiation", but would still be novel. Some museums are like that, and you'll want to go see an Avengers movie afterwards to satisfy your entertainment. Some restaurants are like that, and you'll hit MacDonalds on teh way back. But more often than not, Michelin-echelon restaurants will overwhelm you with a ton of tiny courses, by the end of which you will be fairly adequately stuffed.

ghaff 5y ago
3-4 hours is probably about the limit of how much time I can handle a given museum. Much past that, I'm "OK. It's a Rembrandt but it's not one of his really good ones." If it's the Hermitage, I'll make an exception but I'll really start zoning out after a while.