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“Any update on this” should just subscribe you to the issue without actually leaving the comment

belval 5y ago
I don't know their project, but personally I don't have anything against people "bumping" a thread that has gone cold without an actual solution. I am busy and I don't take my open source project very seriously so things do fall through the cracks from time to time. EDIT: This is a small scale project and the user waited 19 days before bumping. To me that's perfectly reasonable.
- notreallyserio 5y ago
  Bumping can also defeat the stalebot plague. I wholeheartedly encourage bumping until stalebot is improved to either a) stop existing or b) consider emoji reactions when deciding if an issue is "stale".
- nohankyou 5y ago
  The user who bumped it just created their GitHub account a couple hours ago, that person wasn't even involved in the original request.
  - horsawlarway 5y ago
    I don't understand why that matters at all.
    - nohankyou 5y ago
      They only created the account to bump a request they had no involvement in. I could understand the original requestor asking for an update, but this is just some rando with no contributions to any project at all.
      - xboxnolifes 5y ago
        Just because they didn't bring up the original request doesn't mean they aren't interested in it having a solution.
      - ziml77 5y ago
        How do you know they weren't keeping an eye on the issue before creating an account? Or maybe they just ran into a case where they need the issue resolved, but aren't sure if they should wait or if it's likely to take long enough that they should find an alternative or a workaround.
      - horsawlarway 5y ago
        Again - who cares? If they went to the trouble of creating an account just to bump this issue... they probably care about it. Asking for update is just as often a way to subtly say "Can I pick this up?" or "Is there a way I can help move this ticket?" or "There was a pr, is this not getting merged because you won't accept this changeset?" You seem to be making a value judgement I just don't get - who fucking cares if it's just some rando - they were all random people when they started the thread...
        nohankyou 5y ago
        Lazy people who just want stuff done for free, now.
        horsawlarway 5y ago
        And yet... that question got an appropriate and helpful response: This is blocked because the primary author is not available to help due to geopolitical issues. Even if it is just some lazy person who wants stuff done (and frankly - I think that attitude is fairly defeatist - you have no idea who that person is) why are you letting them occupy your headspace if that's what you think? Basically - even if they are lazy, you making the assumption makes you an asshole. Worse - it makes you less effective, because you take a possible volunteer and snub them immediately. Between the two - I'm much more annoyed by your behavior than theirs.
  - belval 5y ago
    That doesn't make the issue any less legitimate. If someone pings me for problem X and I don't solve their issue, if someone finds the thread on Google and bumps it that's still one of my users having an issue. Above all, I much prefer this to people that find my email/LinkedIn and pings me there. That's where I draw the line.
horsawlarway 5y ago
I disagree. A direct comment is a lot more useful - both because I know it's not a bot, but also because it gives me a touch point for another interested party, who might be able/interested in helping. ex: "Any update on this" can easily be followed with "Not at the moment, we have a work in progress [here], but could use additional hands" or "We're still trying to understand all the use-cases for this, what are you trying to accomplish" or any number of other relevant and useful things. Personally - I enjoy having some human interaction as motivation every now and then, and it's easy enough to just ignore if the answer is "I'm busy".
berkes 5y ago
I often add these too but with a little addition. My main reason is to signal "there are still people out there in need of this". My addition always is "What can I do to help move this forward?" (unless that is made clear in the thread already, ofc). To signal that my need is urgent enough for me to put time, effort or funding into it.

I don't know their project, but personally I don't have anything against people "bumping" a thread that has gone cold without an actual solution. I am busy and I don't take my open source project very seriously so things do fall through the cracks from time to time. EDIT: This is a small scale project and the user waited 19 days before bumping. To me that's perfectly reasonable.

notreallyserio 5y ago
Bumping can also defeat the stalebot plague. I wholeheartedly encourage bumping until stalebot is improved to either a) stop existing or b) consider emoji reactions when deciding if an issue is "stale".
nohankyou 5y ago
The user who bumped it just created their GitHub account a couple hours ago, that person wasn't even involved in the original request.
- horsawlarway 5y ago
  I don't understand why that matters at all.
  - nohankyou 5y ago
    They only created the account to bump a request they had no involvement in. I could understand the original requestor asking for an update, but this is just some rando with no contributions to any project at all.
    - xboxnolifes 5y ago
      Just because they didn't bring up the original request doesn't mean they aren't interested in it having a solution.
    - ziml77 5y ago
      How do you know they weren't keeping an eye on the issue before creating an account? Or maybe they just ran into a case where they need the issue resolved, but aren't sure if they should wait or if it's likely to take long enough that they should find an alternative or a workaround.
    - horsawlarway 5y ago
      Again - who cares? If they went to the trouble of creating an account just to bump this issue... they probably care about it. Asking for update is just as often a way to subtly say "Can I pick this up?" or "Is there a way I can help move this ticket?" or "There was a pr, is this not getting merged because you won't accept this changeset?" You seem to be making a value judgement I just don't get - who fucking cares if it's just some rando - they were all random people when they started the thread...
      - nohankyou 5y ago
        Lazy people who just want stuff done for free, now.
        horsawlarway 5y ago
        And yet... that question got an appropriate and helpful response: This is blocked because the primary author is not available to help due to geopolitical issues. Even if it is just some lazy person who wants stuff done (and frankly - I think that attitude is fairly defeatist - you have no idea who that person is) why are you letting them occupy your headspace if that's what you think? Basically - even if they are lazy, you making the assumption makes you an asshole. Worse - it makes you less effective, because you take a possible volunteer and snub them immediately. Between the two - I'm much more annoyed by your behavior than theirs.
- belval 5y ago
  That doesn't make the issue any less legitimate. If someone pings me for problem X and I don't solve their issue, if someone finds the thread on Google and bumps it that's still one of my users having an issue. Above all, I much prefer this to people that find my email/LinkedIn and pings me there. That's where I draw the line.

horsawlarway 5y ago

I disagree. A direct comment is a lot more useful - both because I know it's not a bot, but also because it gives me a touch point for another interested party, who might be able/interested in helping. ex: "Any update on this" can easily be followed with "Not at the moment, we have a work in progress [here], but could use additional hands" or "We're still trying to understand all the use-cases for this, what are you trying to accomplish" or any number of other relevant and useful things. Personally - I enjoy having some human interaction as motivation every now and then, and it's easy enough to just ignore if the answer is "I'm busy".

berkes 5y ago

I often add these too but with a little addition. My main reason is to signal "there are still people out there in need of this". My addition always is "What can I do to help move this forward?" (unless that is made clear in the thread already, ofc). To signal that my need is urgent enough for me to put time, effort or funding into it.