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It's not possible to distinguish between many worlds or any other interpretation, so it will never will be confirmed (nor will the Copenhagen interpretation). T

It's not possible to distinguish between many worlds or any other interpretation, so it will never will be confirmed (nor will the Copenhagen interpretation). The only ones that can be confirmed are the "objective collapse" theories, as they produce very slightly different predictions than normal QM.

ravi-delia 5y ago
I think it's fair to say that if we ever put a full human being into superposition with a large enough environment for decoherence to happen within the experiment, many worlds is all but confirmed.
- zanecodes 5y ago
  This relates to an interpretation of QM that I have not personally found much reading material on, the idea that wavefunction collapse is actually just entanglement; that is to say that as soon as a system in a superposition interacts with the outside universe, the outside universe becomes entangled with the system, thus putting the entire universe into a superposition where both outcomes are observed.
  - ravi-delia 5y ago
    That's precisely Many Worlds! The process you describe is a pretty close match for what's called decoherence. Perhaps you'll have more luck with those search terms, there are quite a few really good resources out there. Just be careful to steer clear of the partisans. However much I disagree with them, the shut-up-and-calculate people give the best overall picture, even when describing a particular interpretation.
    - zanecodes 5y ago
      Is it? For one reason or another I thought there was a distinction, although reading back what I wrote a second time I can't figure out what it would be. It's interesting to consider the implications of this line of thinking though; it seems like it would imply that causally-disconnected regions of spacetime (i.e. things outside of our light cone) are forever in a superposition of all possible quantum states, from our perspective, among other things.
samatman 5y ago
> It's not [currently] possible to distinguish between many worlds or any other interpretation so [unless or until that changes] it will never will be confirmed (nor will the Copenhagen interpretation). Seems like the minimum editorializing to make your statement science and not religion, no?
- beecafe 5y ago
  I would argue that with further knowledge (e.g if we figure out Quantum Gravity), these interpretations will no longer apply at all, as they are equivalent descriptions of an incorrect (or, "effective"/approximate) theory. It's not that we lack the tools to distinguish between Copenhagen and MW, but that they are designed to be not possible to distinguish. Further science will produce theories who have different interpretations (hopefully, just one :)
psb 5y ago
I listened to a talk by David Deutsch and he talks about creating an quantum computer based AI and then asking the AI if there are other worlds - (hope I'm not remembering this wrong)

ravi-delia 5y ago

I think it's fair to say that if we ever put a full human being into superposition with a large enough environment for decoherence to happen within the experiment, many worlds is all but confirmed.

zanecodes 5y ago
This relates to an interpretation of QM that I have not personally found much reading material on, the idea that wavefunction collapse is actually just entanglement; that is to say that as soon as a system in a superposition interacts with the outside universe, the outside universe becomes entangled with the system, thus putting the entire universe into a superposition where both outcomes are observed.
- ravi-delia 5y ago
  That's precisely Many Worlds! The process you describe is a pretty close match for what's called decoherence. Perhaps you'll have more luck with those search terms, there are quite a few really good resources out there. Just be careful to steer clear of the partisans. However much I disagree with them, the shut-up-and-calculate people give the best overall picture, even when describing a particular interpretation.
  - zanecodes 5y ago
    Is it? For one reason or another I thought there was a distinction, although reading back what I wrote a second time I can't figure out what it would be. It's interesting to consider the implications of this line of thinking though; it seems like it would imply that causally-disconnected regions of spacetime (i.e. things outside of our light cone) are forever in a superposition of all possible quantum states, from our perspective, among other things.

samatman 5y ago

> It's not [currently] possible to distinguish between many worlds or any other interpretation so [unless or until that changes] it will never will be confirmed (nor will the Copenhagen interpretation). Seems like the minimum editorializing to make your statement science and not religion, no?

beecafe 5y ago
I would argue that with further knowledge (e.g if we figure out Quantum Gravity), these interpretations will no longer apply at all, as they are equivalent descriptions of an incorrect (or, "effective"/approximate) theory. It's not that we lack the tools to distinguish between Copenhagen and MW, but that they are designed to be not possible to distinguish. Further science will produce theories who have different interpretations (hopefully, just one :)

psb 5y ago

I listened to a talk by David Deutsch and he talks about creating an quantum computer based AI and then asking the AI if there are other worlds - (hope I'm not remembering this wrong)