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Why do you think they aren't? There's a massive gaming on Linux movement which is only going up, and Chromebooks are outselling Apple Macs. Most main OEMs sell

by sofixa 5y ago

Why do you think they aren't? There's a massive gaming on Linux movement which is only going up, and Chromebooks are outselling Apple Macs. Most main OEMs sell Linux-compatible devices, that come with Linux preinstalled.

rvz 5y ago
So when we say 'Linux' we're now talking about 'Chromebooks' with ChromeOS. Not only they defeated the purpose of someone else's point on getting rid of 'closed source' and 'spyware' controlled by Google, it is already at risk of ending up getting replaced by Fuchsia but may still be called 'ChromeOS' and it won't be based on Linux. That is my bet on this decade. I still don't see any evidence of Windows being challenged by any Linux Desktop distro other than being used in WSL2. That is it.
pjmlp 5y ago
20 years for 1% increase, sooo massive. Chromebooks aren't Linux, the userspace runs on the Web Platform, and Crostini is no different from WSL 2.
- blibble 5y ago
  > Chromebooks aren't Linux pretty certain they are let me guess... Android phones aren't Linux either? or the millions of Dell/HP servers running nginx/Java/Postgres/...?
  - pjmlp 5y ago
    > Let me guess... Android phones aren't Linux either? Exactly, ask the Termux guys how much fun they are having obeying to this set of API restrictions, https://developer.android.com/ndk/guides/stable_apis https://developer.android.com/ndk/guides/stable_apis Do you see any Linux APIs there? I don't. And just for the case you are feeling clever, https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2016/06/improving-stability-with-private-cc.html https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2016/06/improving-... > or the millions of Dell/HP servers running nginx/Java/Postgres/...? We are not speaking about servers on a thread about laptops and desktop computers. It is quite clear that UNIX owns the server room.
    - blibble 5y ago
      how many raw NT kernel APIs do your typical Win32 programs call? probably zero? so I guess Win32 programs aren't really Windows programs then? Win32 running on top of NT is no different to the Android API running on top of the Linux kernel
      - pjmlp 5y ago
        Whatever makes you feel happy, beware not to stumble on the fuchsia carpet on the way out.
        blibble 5y ago
        what a fantastic rebuttal watch out for the Wine stain
        pjmlp 5y ago
        There are marvelous cleaning products for that, you should inform yourself. 2% market share on the desktop market, or people giving big bucks to Apple instead of supporting Linux laptop OEMs, don't need rebutals, they are well known facts. As for Android and ChromeOS, keep padding yourself on the back, maybe one day you can run Gimp on them without layers of VM and containers.

by sofixa 5y ago

rvz 5y ago

So when we say 'Linux' we're now talking about 'Chromebooks' with ChromeOS. Not only they defeated the purpose of someone else's point on getting rid of 'closed source' and 'spyware' controlled by Google, it is already at risk of ending up getting replaced by Fuchsia but may still be called 'ChromeOS' and it won't be based on Linux. That is my bet on this decade. I still don't see any evidence of Windows being challenged by any Linux Desktop distro other than being used in WSL2. That is it.

pjmlp 5y ago

20 years for 1% increase, sooo massive. Chromebooks aren't Linux, the userspace runs on the Web Platform, and Crostini is no different from WSL 2.

blibble 5y ago
> Chromebooks aren't Linux pretty certain they are let me guess... Android phones aren't Linux either? or the millions of Dell/HP servers running nginx/Java/Postgres/...?
- pjmlp 5y ago
  > Let me guess... Android phones aren't Linux either? Exactly, ask the Termux guys how much fun they are having obeying to this set of API restrictions, https://developer.android.com/ndk/guides/stable_apis https://developer.android.com/ndk/guides/stable_apis Do you see any Linux APIs there? I don't. And just for the case you are feeling clever, https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2016/06/improving-stability-with-private-cc.html https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2016/06/improving-... > or the millions of Dell/HP servers running nginx/Java/Postgres/...? We are not speaking about servers on a thread about laptops and desktop computers. It is quite clear that UNIX owns the server room.
  - blibble 5y ago
    how many raw NT kernel APIs do your typical Win32 programs call? probably zero? so I guess Win32 programs aren't really Windows programs then? Win32 running on top of NT is no different to the Android API running on top of the Linux kernel
    - pjmlp 5y ago
      Whatever makes you feel happy, beware not to stumble on the fuchsia carpet on the way out.
      - blibble 5y ago
        what a fantastic rebuttal watch out for the Wine stain
        pjmlp 5y ago
        There are marvelous cleaning products for that, you should inform yourself. 2% market share on the desktop market, or people giving big bucks to Apple instead of supporting Linux laptop OEMs, don't need rebutals, they are well known facts. As for Android and ChromeOS, keep padding yourself on the back, maybe one day you can run Gimp on them without layers of VM and containers.