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Maybe ... foreigners won't be allowed to trade starting with the opening bell this morning (which should have already happened.) It wouldn't surprise me if the

by smoyer 5y ago

Maybe ... foreigners won't be allowed to trade starting with the opening bell this morning (which should have already happened.) It wouldn't surprise me if the government shut the exchange down completely. On the other hand, there have been widespread DDOS attacks as well as some pretty high-profile compromises of the Russian computing and network infrastructure. You can even help if you'd like - https://stop-russian-desinformation.near.page/ https://stop-russian-desinformation.near.page/.

rjzzleep 5y ago
Anyone that doesn't want to unintentionally DDOS infrastructure should probably not click any non news links posted on HN these days.
- smoyer 5y ago
  Was that warning not strong enough - perhaps I shouldn't have posted the link at all but I thought it was technically interesting that a tool was developed that even the laity could use simply by loading a web page.
  - Cannabat 5y ago
    It's not clear at all from your comment that opening the URL would immediately engage my computer in an attempted attack. I really would have liked an explicit warning. The JS on the page actually froze my browser; I had to force-quit it, turn off my wifi, and then open it again to be able to close the tab.
  - michaelgrafl 5y ago
    No it wasn't. I only realized after reading the description on the website itself. I'm on a break at work, and it feels funky to have this website doing its thing from here.
Etheryte 5y ago
The Moscow Exchange has been closed since last Friday, February 25th, and given how things are going currently, it's unlikely to reopen soon. Many banks, lenders and middlemen already refuse to trade the ruble at all both due to the sanctions and the insane risk involved — any trade with the ruble risks being a major bag holding operation. For all practical intents and purposes, it's currently more or less in free-fall [0]. [0] https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=RUB&to=USD&view=1Y https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=RUB&to=USD&view=1Y
- throwaway4good 5y ago
  It is under deliberate attack from the west as we have blocked the Russian central bank from using its massive foreign reserve to buy up the rubble as it normally would do. I think though the ruble will weather the storm; it is mostly used internally in Russia, the interest rates have been yanked up to 20%, and Russia still exports massive amounts of commodities (how they get paid I don't know? Chinese Yuan and Indian rupees maybe ...).
- smcl 5y ago
  Weirdly it's recovered about half of the losses from this morning (went from 83 RUB/dollar, up to 110 RUB/dollar and back at 100RUB/dollar).
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    That will stop at some point and then the bottom will really fall out. There is only so much sink capacity for a weak currency like the Ruble always was.
  - HWR_14 5y ago
    I would guess it's being buoyed by people who think the upcoming peace talks will let Putin skate away without long term damage to Russia. Either that, or oligarchs are moving hidden assets back to Russia. Either because they worry they will he discovered or to take advantage of the falling Ruble to buy the other half of the country. Or maybe it's because the market of people buying rubles is really thin right now, and this is an attempt by the Russian government to manipulate the price and public opinion.
minimilian 5y ago
how illegal is this? how does one do it without X11?
- smoyer 5y ago
  In the U.S. it's definitely illegal and I wasn't recommending the OP perform DDOS. From a technical perspective, it's interesting that anyone with a browser can participate.
juanci_to 5y ago
Every request that it's sending is being blocked. Probably it's pretty easy to just refuse to serve any request that has that link as the Referer header.
dgut 5y ago
Optimally people download the source and run it locally to avoid being blocked by referer.
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ndr 5y ago
You should put a warning around that link: it will start a lot of connections as soon as you open it.

by smoyer 5y ago

rjzzleep 5y ago

Anyone that doesn't want to unintentionally DDOS infrastructure should probably not click any non news links posted on HN these days.

smoyer 5y ago
Was that warning not strong enough - perhaps I shouldn't have posted the link at all but I thought it was technically interesting that a tool was developed that even the laity could use simply by loading a web page.
- Cannabat 5y ago
  It's not clear at all from your comment that opening the URL would immediately engage my computer in an attempted attack. I really would have liked an explicit warning. The JS on the page actually froze my browser; I had to force-quit it, turn off my wifi, and then open it again to be able to close the tab.
- michaelgrafl 5y ago
  No it wasn't. I only realized after reading the description on the website itself. I'm on a break at work, and it feels funky to have this website doing its thing from here.

Etheryte 5y ago

The Moscow Exchange has been closed since last Friday, February 25th, and given how things are going currently, it's unlikely to reopen soon. Many banks, lenders and middlemen already refuse to trade the ruble at all both due to the sanctions and the insane risk involved — any trade with the ruble risks being a major bag holding operation. For all practical intents and purposes, it's currently more or less in free-fall [0]. [0] https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=RUB&to=USD&view=1Y https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=RUB&to=USD&view=1Y

throwaway4good 5y ago
It is under deliberate attack from the west as we have blocked the Russian central bank from using its massive foreign reserve to buy up the rubble as it normally would do. I think though the ruble will weather the storm; it is mostly used internally in Russia, the interest rates have been yanked up to 20%, and Russia still exports massive amounts of commodities (how they get paid I don't know? Chinese Yuan and Indian rupees maybe ...).
smcl 5y ago
Weirdly it's recovered about half of the losses from this morning (went from 83 RUB/dollar, up to 110 RUB/dollar and back at 100RUB/dollar).
- jacquesm 5y ago
  That will stop at some point and then the bottom will really fall out. There is only so much sink capacity for a weak currency like the Ruble always was.
- HWR_14 5y ago
  I would guess it's being buoyed by people who think the upcoming peace talks will let Putin skate away without long term damage to Russia. Either that, or oligarchs are moving hidden assets back to Russia. Either because they worry they will he discovered or to take advantage of the falling Ruble to buy the other half of the country. Or maybe it's because the market of people buying rubles is really thin right now, and this is an attempt by the Russian government to manipulate the price and public opinion.

minimilian 5y ago

how illegal is this? how does one do it without X11?

smoyer 5y ago
In the U.S. it's definitely illegal and I wasn't recommending the OP perform DDOS. From a technical perspective, it's interesting that anyone with a browser can participate.

juanci_to 5y ago

Every request that it's sending is being blocked. Probably it's pretty easy to just refuse to serve any request that has that link as the Referer header.

dgut 5y ago

Optimally people download the source and run it locally to avoid being blocked by referer.

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ndr 5y ago

You should put a warning around that link: it will start a lot of connections as soon as you open it.