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Something I can't wrap my head around is why is there even Internet in Ukraine still? Shouldn't the first step of Russian OPs have been to take out telecom? Pho
by BbzzbB 5y ago
Something I can't wrap my head around is why is there even Internet in Ukraine still? Shouldn't the first step of Russian OPs have been to take out telecom? Phones went out in a hurry in ex-Yu (per my parents), but in Ukraine there's still widespread "phones on steroid" to live stream/comment the whole thing every step of the way.
Is it because they're hard to take out or is it a strategic decision? I was initially thinking it must be a voluntary omission, some kind of psyop to get Ukrainians a false sense of security/superiority before Russia shows their actual hand. But as this goes on and it seems Russia's military is not as strong or tactical as expected* the more I just find it puzzling.
*A sentiment I get namely due to info from the thread below, my TLDR being Russia's army is green or only faced weak opposition, not intrinsically motivated and used to doing special ops not wars while Ukrainian's army is battle hardened (6x 60k served in Donbass) and defending their homes. To be noted, if true it doesn't make the situation less volatile - a losing and cornered paper tiger with access thermobaric weapons or tactical nukes seems most dangerous to me. Or not, but if it is I'm getting nervous we (West/NATO) removed them the option to retreat by obliterating their financial system.
0: https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1497993363076915204 https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1497993363076915204
- halfdan 5y agoStarlink is available: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/27/elon-musk-starlink-internet-service-ukraine-russian-invasion https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/27/elon-musk-starlink-... Not sure how easily accessible this is to the average citizen but it surely makes it hard to shut down the internet entirely.
- HWR_14 5y agoIt's unclear if star link is really available yet. As I understand it, the terrestrial stations were just shipped out over the weekend. Hopefully they can start using them soon. I doubt the average citizen will be able to use them, as I'm sure the military uses will have first dibs.
- tim333 5y agoThe financial sanctions can be dropped if the Russians go home. One trouble with cutting internet etc. is Ukraine borders Poland which Russia can't easily touch due to NATO.
- BbzzbB 5y agoYou're right, that could (and probably is) part of the peace negotiations.