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I'm talking about the countless US airforce bases, CIA facilities. I lived near to 2 of those here in Germany. Not because i wanted, but because they are everyw

I'm talking about the countless US airforce bases, CIA facilities. I lived near to 2 of those here in Germany. Not because i wanted, but because they are everywhere.

hef19898 5y ago
I lived close to two of those as well, actually even more than two. Most of which were either closed down since or handed over to the Germans (armed forces of BND, depending on the base in question).
tiahura 5y ago
- hef19898 5y ago
  What the heck are you talking about? Germany also lost WW1 and nobody committed genocide then neither. If you refer to the Morgenthau plan, that lost to the Marschall plan, I think history showed that the world was better of with the latter. The main reason why Germany had so many foreign troops in the former occupation zones was simple: the Cold War. The French held the Ruhr, the British the North and the US the South. The USSR held the East. All those bases were there in case the Cold War turned hot for whatever reason, and Germany into the first ground battle field of WW3. Always better to have the troops already in theater, just in case. Germany was left to its own devices since the 50s after WW1 and since the 20s after WW1. Before WW1, Germany didn't really exist as a nation.
  - kgonza 5y ago
    Is it deliberate that you don't mention Hitler, Nazism, and WW2?
    - hef19898 5y ago
      I did menrion WW2, didn't I? Hitler and the Holocaust were, IMHO, what caused proposals like the Morgenthau Plan. Luckily, the Marschall Plan won, and helped create a stable Europe. Before that, Europe was a hotbed of conflict. Out of couriosity, Hitler and the Nazis would have justified ehat exactly after the war when it comes to the German population at large? That de-natzification wasn't near as complete as it should have been is a different story.
usrusr 5y ago
Were you forced you to live there, or would you been been free to relocate to somewhere more to your liking, perhaps east of the Ural mountains?

I'm talking about the countless US airforce bases, CIA facilities. I lived near to 2 of those here in Germany. Not because i wanted, but because they are everywhere.

hef19898 5y ago

I lived close to two of those as well, actually even more than two. Most of which were either closed down since or handed over to the Germans (armed forces of BND, depending on the base in question).

tiahura 5y ago

hef19898 5y ago
What the heck are you talking about? Germany also lost WW1 and nobody committed genocide then neither. If you refer to the Morgenthau plan, that lost to the Marschall plan, I think history showed that the world was better of with the latter. The main reason why Germany had so many foreign troops in the former occupation zones was simple: the Cold War. The French held the Ruhr, the British the North and the US the South. The USSR held the East. All those bases were there in case the Cold War turned hot for whatever reason, and Germany into the first ground battle field of WW3. Always better to have the troops already in theater, just in case. Germany was left to its own devices since the 50s after WW1 and since the 20s after WW1. Before WW1, Germany didn't really exist as a nation.
- kgonza 5y ago
  Is it deliberate that you don't mention Hitler, Nazism, and WW2?
  - hef19898 5y ago
    I did menrion WW2, didn't I? Hitler and the Holocaust were, IMHO, what caused proposals like the Morgenthau Plan. Luckily, the Marschall Plan won, and helped create a stable Europe. Before that, Europe was a hotbed of conflict. Out of couriosity, Hitler and the Nazis would have justified ehat exactly after the war when it comes to the German population at large? That de-natzification wasn't near as complete as it should have been is a different story.

usrusr 5y ago

Were you forced you to live there, or would you been been free to relocate to somewhere more to your liking, perhaps east of the Ural mountains?