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As a Chinese, I have to say that there are many Chinese who have no principles and no capacity for empathy. Many Chinese are social Darwinists, even though they

As a Chinese, I have to say that there are many Chinese who have no principles and no capacity for empathy. Many Chinese are social Darwinists, even though they are at the bottom, but they think completely from the point of view of the rulers. Although there are quite a few Chinese who are against the war and stand with Ukraine. But most of these posts were deleted by the government-controlled social media, so it looks like most of the Chinese are on the side of Russia. As a Chinese, I am very ashamed to live in the same country as these people.

ashwagary 5y ago
>many Chinese who have no principles and no capacity for empathy. I disagree. Many Chinese have no false illusions about the history of NATO provocation and belligerence. Many of their parents and relatives died defending their own country and borders from the same NATO countries. They can smell the bullshit in the prevailing western narrative about this conflict. The fact that NATO would seriously arm Ukranian Nazis, Wahabist Terrorists, Mujahadeen, ISIS, and other dangerous groups just for the sake of destablization and a temporary upper hand in conflicts/resources-wars is not commendable and extremely immoral. The millions of innocent civilians that die due to this immorality and lack of consideration from NATO are almost completely ignored by western audiences. Most Chinese do not ignore these civilian deaths, which is why I expect they are taking the positions they are.
dang 5y ago
You can't post like this to HN, even if you belong to the group that you're denouncing. I realize it's much more complex in the latter case, and often comes from noble motivations: the wish to see the other side, and to acknowledge the faults of one's own side. But those are subtle distinctions that don't help when the substance of the comment is pure flamebait. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

ashwagary 5y ago

>many Chinese who have no principles and no capacity for empathy. I disagree. Many Chinese have no false illusions about the history of NATO provocation and belligerence. Many of their parents and relatives died defending their own country and borders from the same NATO countries. They can smell the bullshit in the prevailing western narrative about this conflict. The fact that NATO would seriously arm Ukranian Nazis, Wahabist Terrorists, Mujahadeen, ISIS, and other dangerous groups just for the sake of destablization and a temporary upper hand in conflicts/resources-wars is not commendable and extremely immoral. The millions of innocent civilians that die due to this immorality and lack of consideration from NATO are almost completely ignored by western audiences. Most Chinese do not ignore these civilian deaths, which is why I expect they are taking the positions they are.

dang 5y ago

You can't post like this to HN, even if you belong to the group that you're denouncing. I realize it's much more complex in the latter case, and often comes from noble motivations: the wish to see the other side, and to acknowledge the faults of one's own side. But those are subtle distinctions that don't help when the substance of the comment is pure flamebait. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html