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From my US perspective the average Russians are enabling their government by allowing them to wage war. If average Russians leveraged consequences on your leade

From my US perspective the average Russians are enabling their government by allowing them to wage war. If average Russians leveraged consequences on your leaders that reflected your 8% approval rate; then the conflict would end. Also, from a US perspective and ignoring the news media... from a former webmaster... Russia is literally the Brotherhood of Nod from the CNC game series. Your leader is Kane. By all appearances; Russia has no organic traffic. Just spiders and saboteurs. I have never seen a large organization that did not unilaterally geoblock any and all requests specifically from Russia and Belarus. Do you know why? Because there are no legitimate users from those countries. Just the worst kind of spam; the worst kind of fraud; basically the bane of the internet. Probably about 3/4 of the crap in the honey pots is Russian sponsored. It would be great if Russian citizens would demand accountability from their government for harboring and promoting international cybercrime. I can't speak for the rest of the world but from where I'm sitting; Russia gets a lot more value from being part of the internet than the rest of the world gets from Russia being a part of the internet.

gruez 5y ago
>By all appearances; Russia has no organic traffic. Just spiders and saboteurs. [...] Because there are no legitimate users from those countries. Just the worst kind of spam; the worst kind of fraud; basically the bane of the internet. That sound suspiciously close to "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
maybelsyrup 5y ago
> From my own US perspective the average Russians are enabling their government by allowing them to wage war. If average Russians leveraged consequences on your leaders that reflected your 8% approval rate; then the conflict would end. From my US perspective, average Americans are enabling their government by allowing them to wage a 3-decade long war against Russia. If average Americans leveraged consequences on your leaders that reflected your president's god awful, approval rate, then the conflict would end. You don't have to stan for Putin to see that US and NATO (i.e. the US) have a huge amount of responsibility for what's happening right now. The crazy thing is that it's the only thing we as Americans have even a hair of a say about. We can't influence the Russian government. Maybe we can influence our own. > Russia is literally the Brotherhood of Nod from the CNC game series You love to see guys just tell on themselves like this. > zelon88 Completely unrelated I promise but what do those numbers mean
- foogazi 5y ago
  > You don't have to stan for Putin to see that US and NATO (i.e. the US) have a huge amount of responsibility for what's happening right now. Woah - how huge an amount are you talking about ? Higher than Russia / Ukraine ? The Russian elites seemed to be doing great - they own Aluminum companies, soccer teams, Putin built his new palace - why the need to invade a neighbor country ?
  - chrononaut 5y ago
    Not OP, but I assume they are referring to foreign policy makers that believe in balance of power politics. If you have committed and great powers being pushed to the brink, they are not going to fall over easily, which causes them to take rash actions like we see today.
  - maybelsyrup 5y ago
    > Woah - how huge an amount are you talking about ? Higher than Russia / Ukraine ? Yes, way, way higher than Russia/Ukraine: https://youtu.be/Nbj1AR_aAcE https://youtu.be/Nbj1AR_aAcE
- landemva 5y ago
  We can influence our own if we demand it. The people compelled Obama & Kerry to backpedal on their plan to invade Syria in 2013. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/31/syrian-air-strikes-obama-congress https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/31/syrian-air-str... '... a dramatic turnaround by the White House, which had earlier in the week indicated it was on the verge of launching strikes against Syria ... '

gruez 5y ago

>By all appearances; Russia has no organic traffic. Just spiders and saboteurs. [...] Because there are no legitimate users from those countries. Just the worst kind of spam; the worst kind of fraud; basically the bane of the internet. That sound suspiciously close to "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

maybelsyrup 5y ago

> From my own US perspective the average Russians are enabling their government by allowing them to wage war. If average Russians leveraged consequences on your leaders that reflected your 8% approval rate; then the conflict would end. From my US perspective, average Americans are enabling their government by allowing them to wage a 3-decade long war against Russia. If average Americans leveraged consequences on your leaders that reflected your president's god awful, approval rate, then the conflict would end. You don't have to stan for Putin to see that US and NATO (i.e. the US) have a huge amount of responsibility for what's happening right now. The crazy thing is that it's the only thing we as Americans have even a hair of a say about. We can't influence the Russian government. Maybe we can influence our own. > Russia is literally the Brotherhood of Nod from the CNC game series You love to see guys just tell on themselves like this. > zelon88 Completely unrelated I promise but what do those numbers mean

foogazi 5y ago
> You don't have to stan for Putin to see that US and NATO (i.e. the US) have a huge amount of responsibility for what's happening right now. Woah - how huge an amount are you talking about ? Higher than Russia / Ukraine ? The Russian elites seemed to be doing great - they own Aluminum companies, soccer teams, Putin built his new palace - why the need to invade a neighbor country ?
- chrononaut 5y ago
  Not OP, but I assume they are referring to foreign policy makers that believe in balance of power politics. If you have committed and great powers being pushed to the brink, they are not going to fall over easily, which causes them to take rash actions like we see today.
- maybelsyrup 5y ago
  > Woah - how huge an amount are you talking about ? Higher than Russia / Ukraine ? Yes, way, way higher than Russia/Ukraine: https://youtu.be/Nbj1AR_aAcE https://youtu.be/Nbj1AR_aAcE
landemva 5y ago
We can influence our own if we demand it. The people compelled Obama & Kerry to backpedal on their plan to invade Syria in 2013. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/31/syrian-air-strikes-obama-congress https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/31/syrian-air-str... '... a dramatic turnaround by the White House, which had earlier in the week indicated it was on the verge of launching strikes against Syria ... '