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Know any kids with any type of disability? They're screwed. Know any people of color? They're screwed. Know any working poor who can't make the drive to the r

Know any kids with any type of disability? They're screwed. Know any people of color? They're screwed. Know any working poor who can't make the drive to the rich neighborhood school? They're screwed. But I guess I don't know what you like.

macinjosh 5y ago
Big claims to make with zero evidence.
- geoduck14 5y ago
  I have evidence. In Texas we just received our school's scorecards. They show, at an aggregate, how my school (and district and state) performed at the annual exams for 2019 and 2021. The scores are broken out by some different demographics, such as: race, poverty, and disability. As GP mentioned, the standard scores for black people, disabled people, and poor people dropped by more than the average. I had my eye on disabled people - and I was disappointed in the change!
  - LudwigNagasena 5y ago
    Race in that case seems to be a confounded variable.
  - macinjosh 5y ago
    So the current system is failing minorities and your response is let’s give this system more money, not I wish I could have my children educated by a more capable organization? We should fund kids not systems.
- refurb 5y ago
  Happening in SF. The wealthier parents hired private teachers and the kids didn’t miss a beat. Even the middle class parents just split the cost across 5 kids and they did class in the park (to align with restrictions). The poor parents? Well they can’t take time off their jobs or work from home. So they scrambled to find someone willing to watch their kids do online learning. It started with a couple hours per day and now those kids are at least a year behind while their middle-upper class peers and right on track.
xibalba 5y ago
> Know any people of color? They're screwed Uh what? Do you really not see how racist this is???
- zdragnar 5y ago
  On average, students of color come from poorer families, who are less able to support a remotely learning student. The schools they go to tend to also be less well equipped to teach remotely. I forget which school, but I saw one not too long ago that was still teaching remotely, but the school itself was open so that students had access to computers to attend lessons. As a blanket statement, yes, it is wrong. It is, however, more right than wrong when you look at the statistics.
  - zamadatix 5y ago
    Averages aside "working poor" was listed as a separate category from people of color.
  - xibalba 5y ago
    So then just say “poor people”. I’m always surprised at how many well meaning people actually project racist views unintentionally. And by the way, many “people of color” groups outperform white people both academically and economically. Asians Americans, for instance.
    - panzagl 5y ago
      So I went to school in a recently desegregated school district in the 70's- those who could afford to sent their kids to private schools, then voted against the public school budget at every turn. I don't think you can argue that this would not be in danger of happening again. Expanding the term POC to include Asians is yet another example of white liberals undermining Black and Latino causes to try to convince themselves that they're not racist, only those nasty conservatives are.

macinjosh 5y ago

Big claims to make with zero evidence.

geoduck14 5y ago
I have evidence. In Texas we just received our school's scorecards. They show, at an aggregate, how my school (and district and state) performed at the annual exams for 2019 and 2021. The scores are broken out by some different demographics, such as: race, poverty, and disability. As GP mentioned, the standard scores for black people, disabled people, and poor people dropped by more than the average. I had my eye on disabled people - and I was disappointed in the change!
- LudwigNagasena 5y ago
  Race in that case seems to be a confounded variable.
- macinjosh 5y ago
  So the current system is failing minorities and your response is let’s give this system more money, not I wish I could have my children educated by a more capable organization? We should fund kids not systems.
refurb 5y ago
Happening in SF. The wealthier parents hired private teachers and the kids didn’t miss a beat. Even the middle class parents just split the cost across 5 kids and they did class in the park (to align with restrictions). The poor parents? Well they can’t take time off their jobs or work from home. So they scrambled to find someone willing to watch their kids do online learning. It started with a couple hours per day and now those kids are at least a year behind while their middle-upper class peers and right on track.

xibalba 5y ago

> Know any people of color? They're screwed Uh what? Do you really not see how racist this is???

zdragnar 5y ago
On average, students of color come from poorer families, who are less able to support a remotely learning student. The schools they go to tend to also be less well equipped to teach remotely. I forget which school, but I saw one not too long ago that was still teaching remotely, but the school itself was open so that students had access to computers to attend lessons. As a blanket statement, yes, it is wrong. It is, however, more right than wrong when you look at the statistics.
- zamadatix 5y ago
  Averages aside "working poor" was listed as a separate category from people of color.
- xibalba 5y ago
  So then just say “poor people”. I’m always surprised at how many well meaning people actually project racist views unintentionally. And by the way, many “people of color” groups outperform white people both academically and economically. Asians Americans, for instance.
  - panzagl 5y ago
    So I went to school in a recently desegregated school district in the 70's- those who could afford to sent their kids to private schools, then voted against the public school budget at every turn. I don't think you can argue that this would not be in danger of happening again. Expanding the term POC to include Asians is yet another example of white liberals undermining Black and Latino causes to try to convince themselves that they're not racist, only those nasty conservatives are.