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from what i read anti-war protesters in russia get arrested. so the threshold to show one’s disapproval with the invasion is fairly high.

ozfive 5y ago
Nothing stoping Russians from starting sabotage operations internally in protest.
- usr1106 5y ago
  > Nothing stoping Russians from starting sabotage operations internally in protest. A lot is stopping most people. First you need somewhat objective information what is happening. A vast majority of the population does not have that. All independent voices have silenced, except if you are a political activist and know what to search for. Then you need to take significant risk to commit crimes. As a small saboteur they won't have Novichok for you, but Russian prisons are very close to systematic torture. Especially for prisoners with a political background.
usr1106 5y ago
> from what i read anti-war protesters in russia get arrested. Not only arrested. Beaten up and treated with electro shocks. Putin's Russia is not about humanity.
- jmnicolas 5y ago
  Again, citation needed. These accusations are way too serious to just put it like that.
  - PixelOfDeath 5y ago
    Yes! Nobody can just claim such terrible acts from a state that openly murders political opponents and currently is carrying out an invasion of a peaceful country.
  - usr1106 5y ago
    I read interviews with protesters yesterday, sorry no link available. But my favorite search engine immediately brings up these ones: https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-moscow-navalny-protests-police-violence-electric-shocks/31078986.html https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-moscow-navalny-protests-polic... https://www.ifj.org/media-centre/news/detail/category/press-releases/article/russia-union-takes-up-cases-of-journalists-beaten-and-arrested-while-covering-protests.html https://www.ifj.org/media-centre/news/detail/category/press-... https://freedomnews.org.uk/2018/02/13/russia-arrested-antifascists-talk-about-torture-in-prison/ https://freedomnews.org.uk/2018/02/13/russia-arrested-antifa... They are a couple of years old, but that things would have changed for the better in Russia does not sound likely, all reports are talking of the opposite. There are also many reports about systematic rape in Russian prisons. Committed by inmates who are forced by the guards in exchange for less inhuman treatment. Search for Nawalny's reports how is being treated if you still have not enough. Of course he gets carefully selected treatment because they know that the international press is reporting. But still it's a country where not only the leader is a brutal criminal.

ozfive 5y ago

Nothing stoping Russians from starting sabotage operations internally in protest.

usr1106 5y ago
> Nothing stoping Russians from starting sabotage operations internally in protest. A lot is stopping most people. First you need somewhat objective information what is happening. A vast majority of the population does not have that. All independent voices have silenced, except if you are a political activist and know what to search for. Then you need to take significant risk to commit crimes. As a small saboteur they won't have Novichok for you, but Russian prisons are very close to systematic torture. Especially for prisoners with a political background.

usr1106 5y ago

> from what i read anti-war protesters in russia get arrested. Not only arrested. Beaten up and treated with electro shocks. Putin's Russia is not about humanity.

jmnicolas 5y ago
Again, citation needed. These accusations are way too serious to just put it like that.
- PixelOfDeath 5y ago
  Yes! Nobody can just claim such terrible acts from a state that openly murders political opponents and currently is carrying out an invasion of a peaceful country.
- usr1106 5y ago
  I read interviews with protesters yesterday, sorry no link available. But my favorite search engine immediately brings up these ones: https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-moscow-navalny-protests-police-violence-electric-shocks/31078986.html https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-moscow-navalny-protests-polic... https://www.ifj.org/media-centre/news/detail/category/press-releases/article/russia-union-takes-up-cases-of-journalists-beaten-and-arrested-while-covering-protests.html https://www.ifj.org/media-centre/news/detail/category/press-... https://freedomnews.org.uk/2018/02/13/russia-arrested-antifascists-talk-about-torture-in-prison/ https://freedomnews.org.uk/2018/02/13/russia-arrested-antifa... They are a couple of years old, but that things would have changed for the better in Russia does not sound likely, all reports are talking of the opposite. There are also many reports about systematic rape in Russian prisons. Committed by inmates who are forced by the guards in exchange for less inhuman treatment. Search for Nawalny's reports how is being treated if you still have not enough. Of course he gets carefully selected treatment because they know that the international press is reporting. But still it's a country where not only the leader is a brutal criminal.