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"I have been deeply shocked and saddened by the situation unfolding in Ukraine and my heart goes out to everyone affected. It has caused us to fundamentally ret

by jka 5y ago

"I have been deeply shocked and saddened by the situation unfolding in Ukraine and my heart goes out to everyone affected. It has caused us to fundamentally rethink bp's position with Rosneft," BP Chief Executive Bernard Looney said. Narrowing in on the words "fundamentally rethink": I suppose that could indicate that BP did not anticipate this series of events unfolding, and that this decision to retreat was not planned in advance?

asplake 5y ago
BP was already (Friday) under some political pressure: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60526891 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60526891
jfengel 5y ago
An awful lot of people never expected it to get this far. They expected it to be a threat to achieve concessions. The actual attack forces a very broad reconceptualization of how Russia intends to relate to the rest of the world. It is much more hostile than their previous incursions, because this was someone the West considered an ally and possibly even a NATO member. This is incredibly dangerous in a way nobody expected them to risk.
- prewett 5y ago
  I think people paper over the dark side of human nature. Sometimes people do bad things not out of ignorance, but out of a desire to do bad things. It seemed pretty obvious to me that Putin was going to invade: you don't mass 200,000 troops on the border and start making justifying noises if you aren't planning on invading. Putin followed the pre-invasion script of pretty much every invasion in the past couple of hundred years that I'm aware of.
  - ip26 5y ago
    I doubt many desire to do bad things, but rather desire the spoils of bad things & find ways to self-justify.
  - jopsen 5y ago
    He did mass troops before without invading.. But the US intelligence played it, yes, it's not surprising. Honestly, I thought it could have gone either way. This will have more consequences than anything before, I don't see how we normalize relations with Putin anytime the next 20 years.

by jka 5y ago

asplake 5y ago

BP was already (Friday) under some political pressure: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60526891 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60526891

jfengel 5y ago

An awful lot of people never expected it to get this far. They expected it to be a threat to achieve concessions. The actual attack forces a very broad reconceptualization of how Russia intends to relate to the rest of the world. It is much more hostile than their previous incursions, because this was someone the West considered an ally and possibly even a NATO member. This is incredibly dangerous in a way nobody expected them to risk.

prewett 5y ago
I think people paper over the dark side of human nature. Sometimes people do bad things not out of ignorance, but out of a desire to do bad things. It seemed pretty obvious to me that Putin was going to invade: you don't mass 200,000 troops on the border and start making justifying noises if you aren't planning on invading. Putin followed the pre-invasion script of pretty much every invasion in the past couple of hundred years that I'm aware of.
- ip26 5y ago
  I doubt many desire to do bad things, but rather desire the spoils of bad things & find ways to self-justify.
- jopsen 5y ago
  He did mass troops before without invading.. But the US intelligence played it, yes, it's not surprising. Honestly, I thought it could have gone either way. This will have more consequences than anything before, I don't see how we normalize relations with Putin anytime the next 20 years.