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First thing that struck me is how many Chinese made weapons are being used by Ukraine and some by Russia. Looking them up seems some were first designed in Rus

by bruceb 5y ago

First thing that struck me is how many Chinese made weapons are being used by Ukraine and some by Russia. Looking them up seems some were first designed in Russia by now made in China?

pixl97 5y ago
Is it really that much different than the large amount of arms made by the US? The fact that China tends to be very price competitive on manufacturing costs I'm sure will have a massive effect here. Now, more speculation on my part, it seems very likely that China could subsidize weapons manufacturing to bolster the manufacture of weapons in its own country, and to be part of the feedback loop on what is effective and what is not and not have to be directly involved in the battle itself.
revax 5y ago
According to the name of the icon, it's the flag of the Soviet Union, not China. Edit: I would guess it's labelled Soviet when it's unclear which side the equipment come from.
- prima-facie 5y ago
  Those are definitely soviet from the naming scheme. The Chinese use a completely different naming scheme https://man.fas.org/dod-101/sys/land/row/index.html https://man.fas.org/dod-101/sys/land/row/index.html
- enkid 5y ago
  Russia and Ukraine still use a lot of equipment that was built when the USSR was a single entity.
- userbinator 5y ago
  They are indeed quite similar from a distance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_china https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_china
optimalsolver 5y ago
Star of the show on the Ukrainian side is the Turkish-made Bayraktar TB2 drone. It's already obliterated some Russian convoys. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baykar_Bayraktar_TB2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baykar_Bayraktar_TB2
- tomatotomato37 5y ago
  I thought those were all destroyed in their warehouse during the initial cruise missile barrage. Good to see some survived

by bruceb 5y ago

First thing that struck me is how many Chinese made weapons are being used by Ukraine and some by Russia. Looking them up seems some were first designed in Russia by now made in China?

pixl97 5y ago

Is it really that much different than the large amount of arms made by the US? The fact that China tends to be very price competitive on manufacturing costs I'm sure will have a massive effect here. Now, more speculation on my part, it seems very likely that China could subsidize weapons manufacturing to bolster the manufacture of weapons in its own country, and to be part of the feedback loop on what is effective and what is not and not have to be directly involved in the battle itself.

revax 5y ago

According to the name of the icon, it's the flag of the Soviet Union, not China. Edit: I would guess it's labelled Soviet when it's unclear which side the equipment come from.

prima-facie 5y ago
Those are definitely soviet from the naming scheme. The Chinese use a completely different naming scheme https://man.fas.org/dod-101/sys/land/row/index.html https://man.fas.org/dod-101/sys/land/row/index.html
enkid 5y ago
Russia and Ukraine still use a lot of equipment that was built when the USSR was a single entity.
userbinator 5y ago
They are indeed quite similar from a distance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_china https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_china

optimalsolver 5y ago

Star of the show on the Ukrainian side is the Turkish-made Bayraktar TB2 drone. It's already obliterated some Russian convoys. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baykar_Bayraktar_TB2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baykar_Bayraktar_TB2

tomatotomato37 5y ago
I thought those were all destroyed in their warehouse during the initial cruise missile barrage. Good to see some survived