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> slavic North Korea Russian Federation is mostly not slavic. Secession of federation regions (as it happened with USSR) is the next step on the path of the le

> slavic North Korea Russian Federation is mostly not slavic. Secession of federation regions (as it happened with USSR) is the next step on the path of the least resistance.

morpheos137 5y ago
You do realise that Russians are Slavs, correct?
- goblin89 5y ago
  There is an argument that stereotypical ethnic Russians are Finno-Ugric people. Moreover, if you go almost anywhere in Siberia, 50% or more of the locals will be of ethnic minorities native to the area (you may describe their appearance as Asian). More in rural areas. Many regions are dual language, Russian + indigenous. This includes the largest administrative region on Earth that is not a country.
  - retrac 5y ago
    > ethnic stereotypical Russians are Finno-Ugric people They speak Russian, a Slavic language. The culture is clearly linked and descended from the Old Slavonic people. I'd love to know about the thinking as I'm scratching my head here. This is the first I've heard this claim and I am half Finnish, quarter Russian by ethnicity. My grandparents certainly did not think they were from the same ethnic group.
    - goblin89 5y ago
      The first argument is theoretical and controversial. The second point is not.
      - messe 5y ago
        What part of Russian being a Slavic language is controversial?
        svnt 5y ago
        Poster is not saying that — they are answering the immediate parent’s question, not analyzing his arguments, and instead analyzing the two arguments of the grandparent post.
    - helge9210 5y ago
      > They speak Russian, a Slavic language Modern Russian is a little bit older than hundred years. "Pre-reform" language was significantly different in script, vocabulary and grammar and wasn't older than hundred years itself. Before Napoleonic war 1812 nobility was speaking French, ruling family was German and serfs were speaking Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian or one of the Turkic dialects. The only slavic parts remaining in the modern Russian is Cyrillic script and words borrowed from Ukrainian.
      - muzika 5y ago
        Not exactly true. The Bible was translated into Russian in 1820 so we have a pretty good idea of what Russian language was like back then (99% similar to today’s language). There were a few minor changes to the script, but nothing crazy.
- helge9210 5y ago
  The phrase "Grattez le Russe, et vous verrez un Tartare" (Scratch a Russian and you'll find a Tatar) wasn't invented yesterday. "Slavic Russians" are mostly Belarusians (Smolensk Region) or forcibly assimilated Ukrainians (Bryansk, Kursk, Voronezh) or not even assimilated Ukrainians in Kuban (they still speak Ukrainian, but have their own name for it).
- hourislate 5y ago
  They may be considered Slavs but the reality is many of them are more Mongolian and very different from Slavs. Even their language shows signs of Mongolian influence. The Mongolians could not pronounce certain sounds properly and the Russian language exhibits these pronunciations.
- Koshkin 5y ago
  Russians are just one of dozens of nationalities in Russian Federation.

> slavic North Korea Russian Federation is mostly not slavic. Secession of federation regions (as it happened with USSR) is the next step on the path of the least resistance.

morpheos137 5y ago

You do realise that Russians are Slavs, correct?

goblin89 5y ago
There is an argument that stereotypical ethnic Russians are Finno-Ugric people. Moreover, if you go almost anywhere in Siberia, 50% or more of the locals will be of ethnic minorities native to the area (you may describe their appearance as Asian). More in rural areas. Many regions are dual language, Russian + indigenous. This includes the largest administrative region on Earth that is not a country.
- retrac 5y ago
  > ethnic stereotypical Russians are Finno-Ugric people They speak Russian, a Slavic language. The culture is clearly linked and descended from the Old Slavonic people. I'd love to know about the thinking as I'm scratching my head here. This is the first I've heard this claim and I am half Finnish, quarter Russian by ethnicity. My grandparents certainly did not think they were from the same ethnic group.
  - goblin89 5y ago
    The first argument is theoretical and controversial. The second point is not.
    - messe 5y ago
      What part of Russian being a Slavic language is controversial?
      - svnt 5y ago
        Poster is not saying that — they are answering the immediate parent’s question, not analyzing his arguments, and instead analyzing the two arguments of the grandparent post.
  - helge9210 5y ago
    > They speak Russian, a Slavic language Modern Russian is a little bit older than hundred years. "Pre-reform" language was significantly different in script, vocabulary and grammar and wasn't older than hundred years itself. Before Napoleonic war 1812 nobility was speaking French, ruling family was German and serfs were speaking Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian or one of the Turkic dialects. The only slavic parts remaining in the modern Russian is Cyrillic script and words borrowed from Ukrainian.
    - muzika 5y ago
      Not exactly true. The Bible was translated into Russian in 1820 so we have a pretty good idea of what Russian language was like back then (99% similar to today’s language). There were a few minor changes to the script, but nothing crazy.
helge9210 5y ago
The phrase "Grattez le Russe, et vous verrez un Tartare" (Scratch a Russian and you'll find a Tatar) wasn't invented yesterday. "Slavic Russians" are mostly Belarusians (Smolensk Region) or forcibly assimilated Ukrainians (Bryansk, Kursk, Voronezh) or not even assimilated Ukrainians in Kuban (they still speak Ukrainian, but have their own name for it).
hourislate 5y ago
They may be considered Slavs but the reality is many of them are more Mongolian and very different from Slavs. Even their language shows signs of Mongolian influence. The Mongolians could not pronounce certain sounds properly and the Russian language exhibits these pronunciations.
Koshkin 5y ago
Russians are just one of dozens of nationalities in Russian Federation.