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Dualism will lead to only a very basic understanding of existence. Death, nor cancer, are good or bad. Jesus might have had the whole thing wrong after all. Of

Dualism will lead to only a very basic understanding of existence. Death, nor cancer, are good or bad. Jesus might have had the whole thing wrong after all. Of maybe humanity, as its so often does, misinterpreted His teaching. Before we knew about cancer, and yes there was a time we did not know what cancer was, was canned good or bad? Did we even see natural death as bad? So where did these constructs come from? And now I guess you are saying immortality is good? Good for who? Overpopulation is already an issue, imagine if no one died!! You cannot create a good thing without also creating a bad thing. That is just the way it is.

CryptoPunk 5y ago
Overpopulation can be solved while increasing the human population, by eliminating people's environmental footprint. This is a much better way of solving the issue of overpopulation than consciously avoiding solving the problem of aging. A larger population, that sees an acceleration in the rate of per capita human capital accumulation, as a consequence of aging being solved, could also be a huge boon for other lifeforms, as it could mean artificial habitats being created outside of Earth where these lifeforms could flourish. It is entirely possible for human civilization to one day create continent sized O'Neill cylinder covered with forests originating from Earth.
- FollowingTheDao 5y ago
  > Overpopulation can be solved while increasing the human population, by eliminating people's environmental footprint. Ha! I have heard of people trying to control the world but I have never seen it accomplished. Yes, there are many impossible possibilities that can only be created with fascism.
- tehjoker 5y ago
  Why not just conserve nature instead of putting it in a museum? "Solutions" like that make me feel doomed.
  - CryptoPunk 5y ago
    What I described is not a museum. It is a living, evolving ecosystem. It is however under the conscious control of humans. A milder version of this exists in the form of national parks and wildlife reserves. It also is not mutually exclusive with preserving Earth's natural habitats. In fact, expanding beyond Earth makes it possible to outsource industry and agriculture off-Earth, to allow more of the Earth's surface to be returned to its pre-human state. Finally, in terms of human-engineered expansion of habitats for other lifeforms, there is the far more durable possibility of terraformed planets. These would require no active intervention to maintain once the terraforming has been completed. In short, the ascent of human civilization can be, and I would bet would likely to be, a massively positive development for all forms of Earth-based life.

CryptoPunk 5y ago

Overpopulation can be solved while increasing the human population, by eliminating people's environmental footprint. This is a much better way of solving the issue of overpopulation than consciously avoiding solving the problem of aging. A larger population, that sees an acceleration in the rate of per capita human capital accumulation, as a consequence of aging being solved, could also be a huge boon for other lifeforms, as it could mean artificial habitats being created outside of Earth where these lifeforms could flourish. It is entirely possible for human civilization to one day create continent sized O'Neill cylinder covered with forests originating from Earth.

FollowingTheDao 5y ago
> Overpopulation can be solved while increasing the human population, by eliminating people's environmental footprint. Ha! I have heard of people trying to control the world but I have never seen it accomplished. Yes, there are many impossible possibilities that can only be created with fascism.
tehjoker 5y ago
Why not just conserve nature instead of putting it in a museum? "Solutions" like that make me feel doomed.
- CryptoPunk 5y ago
  What I described is not a museum. It is a living, evolving ecosystem. It is however under the conscious control of humans. A milder version of this exists in the form of national parks and wildlife reserves. It also is not mutually exclusive with preserving Earth's natural habitats. In fact, expanding beyond Earth makes it possible to outsource industry and agriculture off-Earth, to allow more of the Earth's surface to be returned to its pre-human state. Finally, in terms of human-engineered expansion of habitats for other lifeforms, there is the far more durable possibility of terraformed planets. These would require no active intervention to maintain once the terraforming has been completed. In short, the ascent of human civilization can be, and I would bet would likely to be, a massively positive development for all forms of Earth-based life.