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I'm so happy we have all decided to put our capes on the moment a white majority nation is invaded despite the huge potential price to pay for it while we left

I'm so happy we have all decided to put our capes on the moment a white majority nation is invaded despite the huge potential price to pay for it while we left people in the middle east get terrorised.

Lochleg 5y ago
By that logic, Russia would be the one receiving nominal Western support since it carries out ethnic cleansings (with relative impunity) against Georgians and possibly now Ukrainians, who must be "less white" than Russians on most scales. Also, Ukraine was already gradually descending into chaos because superpowers were playing ridiculous games like they do in the Middle East despite lacking the usual justifications used for the War on Terror.
- watwut 5y ago
  > Ukrainians, who must be "less white" than Russians They are not less white. White as all encompassing the most important racial/ethnic category is an American invention. It does not make sense to import it outside of America and assume it will work. Also, Putin line is that Ukraine is fake nation. It should not exist as independent entity, basically.
  - Lochleg 5y ago
    White is a skin tone, but it also seems to be a catch-all for anyone that can be assigned historical guilt for benefitting in some way from imperialism. From there, the possibilities are endless. So, the present-day Russia has transgressed greatly and should be punished, according to this perspective. However, apparently, Ukrainians are benefitting as well as Caucasians, and that's why they would receive sympathy. If I could just forget about having heard of this ideology, I would.
    - watwut 5y ago
      You are really twisting yourself into pretzels.
gunfighthacksaw 5y ago
Shit take. Many western nations have strong ties to Ukraine through historical waves of immigration, and in the case of Poland, they are neighbours with a similar way of life and language. Plus Ukrainians are taking a stand to defend their democracy, whereas Afghanistan made no such effort. Also, the west went above and beyond wrt Syria, but Putin obviously won that one.

Lochleg 5y ago

By that logic, Russia would be the one receiving nominal Western support since it carries out ethnic cleansings (with relative impunity) against Georgians and possibly now Ukrainians, who must be "less white" than Russians on most scales. Also, Ukraine was already gradually descending into chaos because superpowers were playing ridiculous games like they do in the Middle East despite lacking the usual justifications used for the War on Terror.

watwut 5y ago
> Ukrainians, who must be "less white" than Russians They are not less white. White as all encompassing the most important racial/ethnic category is an American invention. It does not make sense to import it outside of America and assume it will work. Also, Putin line is that Ukraine is fake nation. It should not exist as independent entity, basically.
- Lochleg 5y ago
  White is a skin tone, but it also seems to be a catch-all for anyone that can be assigned historical guilt for benefitting in some way from imperialism. From there, the possibilities are endless. So, the present-day Russia has transgressed greatly and should be punished, according to this perspective. However, apparently, Ukrainians are benefitting as well as Caucasians, and that's why they would receive sympathy. If I could just forget about having heard of this ideology, I would.
  - watwut 5y ago
    You are really twisting yourself into pretzels.

gunfighthacksaw 5y ago

Shit take. Many western nations have strong ties to Ukraine through historical waves of immigration, and in the case of Poland, they are neighbours with a similar way of life and language. Plus Ukrainians are taking a stand to defend their democracy, whereas Afghanistan made no such effort. Also, the west went above and beyond wrt Syria, but Putin obviously won that one.