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The dependence is true, but I feel like this was accepted by most with the hope that economic integration of russia would avoid war in europe. Losing so much bu

The dependence is true, but I feel like this was accepted by most with the hope that economic integration of russia would avoid war in europe. Losing so much business would be a deterrent. I and many other, probably mistakenly, believed this would keep putin in check. You have to remember that for the US russia is far away, but for us it's a neighbor and our history is bound together for centuries. East germany was part of the soviet union for decades. We live, lived, in the longest stretch of peace on the european continent and maybe it was NATO and a common enemy but it was also because of diplomancy, compromise and economic integration. The US is also importing $25bn of crude oil from russia while telling germany to cut down on gas imports from a reliable parter at that point. https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MTTIM_NUS-NRS_1&f=A https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=M... Putin is a whacko, damn.

sinyug 5y ago
> accepted by most with the hope that economic integration of russia would avoid war in europe Why? Not everything in the world is for sale, particularly what one perceives to be their national security and interest. Former Pakistani President and Prime Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto once famously said: "If India builds the bomb, we will eat grass or leaves, even go hungry, but we will get one of our own."[1] > for the US russia is far away, but for us it's a neighbor Technically, only 50 miles separate the US and Russia from each other across the Bering Strait. But, yes, I can see how distances might be perceived in the European context. > the longest stretch of peace In geopolitics, permanent peace is not possible. At some point in time, someone will do something to break it. And every generation has to be ready for it. > The US is also importing $25bn of crude oil from russia while telling germany to cut down on gas imports from a reliable parter at that point. The US can be self-reliant very quickly if it wants to. I don't know if the same can be said for Germany. [1] How Pakistan Developed Its Own Nuclear Triad (https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/how-pakistan-developed-its-own-nuclear-triad-196943 https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/how-pakistan-develo...)

sinyug 5y ago

> accepted by most with the hope that economic integration of russia would avoid war in europe Why? Not everything in the world is for sale, particularly what one perceives to be their national security and interest. Former Pakistani President and Prime Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto once famously said: "If India builds the bomb, we will eat grass or leaves, even go hungry, but we will get one of our own."[1] > for the US russia is far away, but for us it's a neighbor Technically, only 50 miles separate the US and Russia from each other across the Bering Strait. But, yes, I can see how distances might be perceived in the European context. > the longest stretch of peace In geopolitics, permanent peace is not possible. At some point in time, someone will do something to break it. And every generation has to be ready for it. > The US is also importing $25bn of crude oil from russia while telling germany to cut down on gas imports from a reliable parter at that point. The US can be self-reliant very quickly if it wants to. I don't know if the same can be said for Germany. [1] How Pakistan Developed Its Own Nuclear Triad (https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/how-pakistan-developed-its-own-nuclear-triad-196943 https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/how-pakistan-develo...)