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Is there any legitimate way to fund armament as well?

scandox 5y ago
https://savelife.in.ua/en/donate/ https://savelife.in.ua/en/donate/ Was sent to me by a Ukrainian colleague that I would trust. Ideally you have to send using direct transfer I think. The details for that are on that same page.
- pastacacioepepe 5y ago
  savelife.in.ua, what a weird domain for a website that allows direct funding of a fighting army.
numpad0 5y ago
Cost of a single Javelin Missile: $174,000(FY19. Launcher device is 126k extra)
- terafo 5y ago
  That money is likely to be used for immediate expenses of army like salaries, fuel sandbags and anything that can be useful in fighting. Javelins are provided by other countries for free.
pastacacioepepe 5y ago
This shouldn't be allowed, especially here.
- giantg2 5y ago
  Why shouldn't it be allowed in general? I do understand that on HN it might be too political.
  - pastacacioepepe 5y ago
    Beside the political aspect of it, which is fine by me, this is actively meddling in foreign conflicts. One thing is to express support for one side, but I believe there are other better channels to get involved militarly. Edit: also if our governments cared as much as keep telling us they do, they would take care of funding ukraine themselves. We wouldn't still be relying on private initiative, which sounds ridicolous to me.
    - giantg2 5y ago
      The bulk of it is governmental. For example, 300 javelin missiles were sent ($24M), and that's only part of one shipment of arms from the US. I don't know how much the private funding will help. Maybe it will fill in the gaps for small items that have not been sent over. "actively meddling in foreign conflicts" Why is that a bad thing? "also if our governments cared as much as keep telling us they do" I do agree that it seems many countries are mostly just talk. It seems just sending arms shipments is all they're willing to do.
- scandox 5y ago
  The countries of which many of us are taxpayers are actively funding their military.
terafo 5y ago
Yes, there is. National Bank of Ukraine opened special fundraising account to support Ukrainian army. https://bank.gov.ua/en/news/all/natsionalniy-bank-vidkriv-spetsrahunok-dlya-zboru-koshtiv-na-potrebi-armiyi https://bank.gov.ua/en/news/all/natsionalniy-bank-vidkriv-sp...

https://savelife.in.ua/en/donate/ https://savelife.in.ua/en/donate/ Was sent to me by a Ukrainian colleague that I would trust. Ideally you have to send using direct transfer I think. The details for that are on that same page.

pastacacioepepe 5y ago
savelife.in.ua, what a weird domain for a website that allows direct funding of a fighting army.

numpad0 5y ago

Cost of a single Javelin Missile: $174,000(FY19. Launcher device is 126k extra)

terafo 5y ago
That money is likely to be used for immediate expenses of army like salaries, fuel sandbags and anything that can be useful in fighting. Javelins are provided by other countries for free.

pastacacioepepe 5y ago

This shouldn't be allowed, especially here.

giantg2 5y ago
Why shouldn't it be allowed in general? I do understand that on HN it might be too political.
- pastacacioepepe 5y ago
  Beside the political aspect of it, which is fine by me, this is actively meddling in foreign conflicts. One thing is to express support for one side, but I believe there are other better channels to get involved militarly. Edit: also if our governments cared as much as keep telling us they do, they would take care of funding ukraine themselves. We wouldn't still be relying on private initiative, which sounds ridicolous to me.
  - giantg2 5y ago
    The bulk of it is governmental. For example, 300 javelin missiles were sent ($24M), and that's only part of one shipment of arms from the US. I don't know how much the private funding will help. Maybe it will fill in the gaps for small items that have not been sent over. "actively meddling in foreign conflicts" Why is that a bad thing? "also if our governments cared as much as keep telling us they do" I do agree that it seems many countries are mostly just talk. It seems just sending arms shipments is all they're willing to do.
scandox 5y ago
The countries of which many of us are taxpayers are actively funding their military.

terafo 5y ago

Yes, there is. National Bank of Ukraine opened special fundraising account to support Ukrainian army. https://bank.gov.ua/en/news/all/natsionalniy-bank-vidkriv-spetsrahunok-dlya-zboru-koshtiv-na-potrebi-armiyi https://bank.gov.ua/en/news/all/natsionalniy-bank-vidkriv-sp...