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That’s simply inevitable in modern wars where everybody carries a camera.
by rosndo 5y ago
That’s simply inevitable in modern wars where everybody carries a camera.
- chmod775 5y agoPublishing their full names is quite evitable.
- rosndo 5y agoPublishing their full names is the right and human thing to do. Russian government is not keeping their families informed.
- chmod775 5y agoYou can just give them a call, you know. In fact some of them are made to call their family in some of the videos circulating. The right and human thing to do is following the Geneva Convention. You'll have to make a pretty amazing case if you want to argue it should be disregarded in this case. It should be obvious there's better ways to inform families of these POWs, not just because a less public/propaganda way is more respectful, but also because a more direct route is more likely to reach them. But that's obviously not the point. This is pretty standard as propaganda goes and fits neatly with the other narratives that are spun. That can be understood and accepted, but it definitely shouldn't be celebrated.
- rosndo 5y ago> That can be understood and accepted, but it definitely shouldn't be celebrated. If you support the Russian government, then sure.
- chmod775 5y agoJust because one wants Ukraine to repel the Russian invasion does not mean one has to blindly subscribe to and cheer for any means employed. You are being incredibly disingenuous. In fact you are doing your whole argument a disservice with a comment like that.
- rosndo 5y agoPsychological warfare like this hardly deserves criticism. Those who don’t want war in Europe should absolutely cheer for this.
- throwawaycities 5y ago> The right and human thing to do is following the Geneva Convention. What legal precedent do you have that these alleged acts violate international law, norms or customs? I am very familiar with jus ad bellum, jus in bello, war crimes under the Rome Statute and ICC case law, but I am unfamiliar with any legal precedent/case law in support of a position that Russian POWs are being mistreated in violation of any international laws. Assuming you could find some case law on point, I doubt you will, I believe it was Russia themselves who told the United Nations and the UN Security Council that this wasn’t a war but a “special operation.” I’m not exactly sure how Russia would seek application of the laws of war by the international community while simultaneously telling the international community this is not war.
- chmod775 5y agoI couldn't care less what Russia says it's doing. I care about not mistreating prisoners, POWs or not. Figuring out legalities is something that happens over years after the fact. During the actual war, you'll have to keep your arguments short, preferably steering towards moral right - few have time for legalities. The Geneva Convention is an easily understood bare minimum, and regardless of whether some country agreed to be bound by it, few would disagree with the lines it draws.
- throwawaycities 5y ago> The Geneva Convention is an easily understood bare minimum It certainly wasn’t written anticipating the development of the internet decades later and does not expressly prohibit the creation of a website identifying the POWs. If you are making the argument that Ukraine has violated the rights of POWs or any laws, the burden is on you to prove it, no one is going to entertain someone who makes this argument on the basis of moral superiority when they don’t seem to understand the law nor the history from which the law was derived. Out of curiosity what experience do you have in these matters? Do you work for the UN? Are you a lawyer that works for the International Criminal Court? You seem so sure of your interpretation of the Convention, yet have no support for the same.
- throwawaycities 5y agoYou think it’s a war crime to publish the names of military members?