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Coalition losses in the entire war, where they were again, fighting a numerically far superior force, were tiny. ~200 killed. Estimates of Russian losses so far

Coalition losses in the entire war, where they were again, fighting a numerically far superior force, were tiny. ~200 killed. Estimates of Russian losses so far are 10x+ that The latest figure reported by Ukraine was they have killed 3500 Russians already. So allowing for a few hours of losses, about 20x.

simonh 5y ago
I find those estimates very hard to believe. The real number of deaths is probably in the mid hundreds on both sides. Bear in mind for each soldier killed you’d expect several times that injured and I doubt the Russians have 10,000 total casualties at this point. That would be the equivalent of several dozen Battalion Tactical Groups disabled.
- contingencies 5y ago
  Last I read was 4500x a few hours ago.[0] I agree it's hard to place faith in the figures. However, one would assume the majority of the fighting hasn't appeared online. Browsing the mediaverse today I did see a few (like 3 different) videos showing what appeared to be unique columns of disabled Russian vehicles. Apparently these were unique, owing to different surrounding environs. That could easily have added to 300 casualties in itself... IIRC one column was a failed Russian push in to Kiev, one was outside Kharkiv and a separate one I can't recall the location. Widely reported were 200 dead Russians at yesterday's airfield. And there was subsequent fighting there too. So it's roughly in the anticipated order of magnitude. [0] Similar report https://nitter.net/pic/media%2FFMmXu6eWYAMOSUB.jpg https://nitter.net/pic/media%2FFMmXu6eWYAMOSUB.jpg
  - reitanqild 5y ago
    Ukraine is calling on Red Cross to come and help them return the bodies, another brilliant move from them. It means - as far as I can see - that they are ready to show their cards to Red Cross and the international community. Also we see Russians ask for unconditional talks, which wouldn't be happening if they felt they had a good chance. I think, as I have hinted to before, that Russians would be wise to break a leg instead of going down to Ukraine. Same for Russian factory workers, store workers and railway workers: if one can delay/prevent young ones from being sent down to the righteously furious Ukrainians, that might save many lives.
vanusa 5y ago
The latest figure reported by Ukraine was they have killed 3500 Russians already. My understanding was that this number was their claim for total casualties (meaning mostly WIA). And that this got lazily cut-and-pasted all over the place to mean KIA.

simonh 5y ago

I find those estimates very hard to believe. The real number of deaths is probably in the mid hundreds on both sides. Bear in mind for each soldier killed you’d expect several times that injured and I doubt the Russians have 10,000 total casualties at this point. That would be the equivalent of several dozen Battalion Tactical Groups disabled.

contingencies 5y ago
Last I read was 4500x a few hours ago.[0] I agree it's hard to place faith in the figures. However, one would assume the majority of the fighting hasn't appeared online. Browsing the mediaverse today I did see a few (like 3 different) videos showing what appeared to be unique columns of disabled Russian vehicles. Apparently these were unique, owing to different surrounding environs. That could easily have added to 300 casualties in itself... IIRC one column was a failed Russian push in to Kiev, one was outside Kharkiv and a separate one I can't recall the location. Widely reported were 200 dead Russians at yesterday's airfield. And there was subsequent fighting there too. So it's roughly in the anticipated order of magnitude. [0] Similar report https://nitter.net/pic/media%2FFMmXu6eWYAMOSUB.jpg https://nitter.net/pic/media%2FFMmXu6eWYAMOSUB.jpg
- reitanqild 5y ago
  Ukraine is calling on Red Cross to come and help them return the bodies, another brilliant move from them. It means - as far as I can see - that they are ready to show their cards to Red Cross and the international community. Also we see Russians ask for unconditional talks, which wouldn't be happening if they felt they had a good chance. I think, as I have hinted to before, that Russians would be wise to break a leg instead of going down to Ukraine. Same for Russian factory workers, store workers and railway workers: if one can delay/prevent young ones from being sent down to the righteously furious Ukrainians, that might save many lives.

vanusa 5y ago

The latest figure reported by Ukraine was they have killed 3500 Russians already. My understanding was that this number was their claim for total casualties (meaning mostly WIA). And that this got lazily cut-and-pasted all over the place to mean KIA.