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Breakout to where? I don't think the Ukrainian army can manouver on roads due to Russian air forces. The units are where they are.

tguvot 5y ago
Russian air forces are mostly not seen. They mostly supported some paratroopers and now they stay away from action (i guess stinger factor and some leftover Ukrainian air defense) There is only one video of helicopter taking out ukranian buk on the road
- rightbyte 5y ago
  > Russian air forces are mostly not seen. Why do you believe that? I am just assuming that many Ukraine troop concentrations visible from satellites has been bombed (vehicles, tents ...) without anything indicating that. The videos available seems very onesided. I.e. Ukrainian civilian or soldiers' videos of victories. It is probably hard to tell much from the videos on the overall progress of the invasion, except where there are fights.
  - tguvot 5y ago
    There is filming of everything. Any movement of troops, any helicopter, any plane and any missile flying. After first day and a half all videos of russian planes disappeared. probably due to still functioning air defense which down some amount of them. currently seems to be the only use of planes by russians is strategic bombers shooting cruise missiles from belorussian skies. there is also enough of videos of ukranian equipment blown up. another point, russia doesn't really have much precise ammo for ground attacks. and there is no signs of carpet bombing in cases where ukranian tanks are blown
  - tguvot 5y ago
    The only new video of airplanes since yesterday: two been shot down next to kharkiv
mcguire 5y ago
Amazingly, from the stuff I've seen, Ukrainian air defense is still a thing! It's not anywhere near gaining superiority, but it's not suppressed either.
- tim333 5y ago
  I know the west have been sending some stinger missiles and it wouldn't surprise me if some more serious stuff follows.

tguvot 5y ago

Russian air forces are mostly not seen. They mostly supported some paratroopers and now they stay away from action (i guess stinger factor and some leftover Ukrainian air defense) There is only one video of helicopter taking out ukranian buk on the road

rightbyte 5y ago
> Russian air forces are mostly not seen. Why do you believe that? I am just assuming that many Ukraine troop concentrations visible from satellites has been bombed (vehicles, tents ...) without anything indicating that. The videos available seems very onesided. I.e. Ukrainian civilian or soldiers' videos of victories. It is probably hard to tell much from the videos on the overall progress of the invasion, except where there are fights.
- tguvot 5y ago
  There is filming of everything. Any movement of troops, any helicopter, any plane and any missile flying. After first day and a half all videos of russian planes disappeared. probably due to still functioning air defense which down some amount of them. currently seems to be the only use of planes by russians is strategic bombers shooting cruise missiles from belorussian skies. there is also enough of videos of ukranian equipment blown up. another point, russia doesn't really have much precise ammo for ground attacks. and there is no signs of carpet bombing in cases where ukranian tanks are blown
- tguvot 5y ago
  The only new video of airplanes since yesterday: two been shot down next to kharkiv

mcguire 5y ago

Amazingly, from the stuff I've seen, Ukrainian air defense is still a thing! It's not anywhere near gaining superiority, but it's not suppressed either.

tim333 5y ago
I know the west have been sending some stinger missiles and it wouldn't surprise me if some more serious stuff follows.