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It was at the edge in a few small ways but it was carefully profiled to be that; it had limitations (single process model) that didn't really matter (except the

It was at the edge in a few small ways but it was carefully profiled to be that; it had limitations (single process model) that didn't really matter (except the absence of 3G) in favour of performance (graphics, capacitive multitouch) that did. It was out in front in a lot of ways but not witchcraft.

cpuguy83 5y ago
That's just it, craft. They took the time to craft the system to fit a certain profile which people found desirable and it changed the industry.
- unfocussed_mike 5y ago
  Right. The common criticisms about Apple kit, at any point in time, will be led by feature comparison rather than benefit comparison. On almost every level, the iPhone prioritised benefits (consistency, simplicity, responsiveness, discoverability) over features. And in all but really two of the feature cases (text management/copy and paste, and the absence of 3G), they gambled right: people cared about the benefits they'd engineered for, and not about the features they'd skipped. (They managed to bluff past the apps question: we knew they had to be working on it and they managed to tell us they were working on it without telling us they were working on it) Commentators still make this mistake with Apple.
imwillofficial 5y ago
“It was out in front in a lot of ways but not witchcraft.” I’ve been running Linux since 14. Had all the great smartphones of the age. At 19 I purchased the first iPhone. It was fucking witchcraft.
- unfocussed_mike 5y ago
  > I’ve been running Linux since 14. Judging by the maths I was running it when you were four or five and have done ever since. I'm not sure what point you're making. > Had all the great smartphones of the age. Good for you. So you ran the handhelds.org linux project on a Compaq iPaq back in 2002-2003, or no? > It was fucking witchcraft. It was not. Apart from the multi-touch implementation which is transformational. Apple did not put anything in that device that other manufacturers didn't have access to, and their device lacked capabilities others had. They just did it right.
  - imwillofficial 5y ago
    Nope, I contend chicken blood must have been spilled in pentagram marked areas because after using the first iPhone I was spellbound.

cpuguy83 5y ago

That's just it, craft. They took the time to craft the system to fit a certain profile which people found desirable and it changed the industry.

unfocussed_mike 5y ago
Right. The common criticisms about Apple kit, at any point in time, will be led by feature comparison rather than benefit comparison. On almost every level, the iPhone prioritised benefits (consistency, simplicity, responsiveness, discoverability) over features. And in all but really two of the feature cases (text management/copy and paste, and the absence of 3G), they gambled right: people cared about the benefits they'd engineered for, and not about the features they'd skipped. (They managed to bluff past the apps question: we knew they had to be working on it and they managed to tell us they were working on it without telling us they were working on it) Commentators still make this mistake with Apple.

imwillofficial 5y ago

“It was out in front in a lot of ways but not witchcraft.” I’ve been running Linux since 14. Had all the great smartphones of the age. At 19 I purchased the first iPhone. It was fucking witchcraft.

unfocussed_mike 5y ago
> I’ve been running Linux since 14. Judging by the maths I was running it when you were four or five and have done ever since. I'm not sure what point you're making. > Had all the great smartphones of the age. Good for you. So you ran the handhelds.org linux project on a Compaq iPaq back in 2002-2003, or no? > It was fucking witchcraft. It was not. Apart from the multi-touch implementation which is transformational. Apple did not put anything in that device that other manufacturers didn't have access to, and their device lacked capabilities others had. They just did it right.
- imwillofficial 5y ago
  Nope, I contend chicken blood must have been spilled in pentagram marked areas because after using the first iPhone I was spellbound.