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> They don't have media that talks about the war their country started Stop spreading misinformation, this is not true. This is basically the only thing that

> They don't have media that talks about the war their country started Stop spreading misinformation, this is not true. This is basically the only thing that all russian-speaking media outlets are talking about. Plus, there is nothing preventing one from opening reddit and seeing what the western media has to say. On the other hand, people in the West seem to be completely (and willingly!) disconnected from the situation in ru-net.

atoav 5y ago
I am not a Russian and don't live in Russia, so maybe the reports I read about are faulty, e.g.: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/26/propaganda-filters-truth-ukraine-war-russian-media https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/26/propaganda-fil...
- foverzar 5y ago
  I will just give you some context: Most news outlets in Russia nowadays aren't even registered as proper media, so they couldn't care less for any "propaganda filters". The article tries to assert that there is a huge difference between a perception of a "military operation" and a "war", but in Russian "military" and "war" is the same word (the same word root): "военная", "война" -- so everyone is just calling it "war". As an example, take look at this article (vc is a massively popular news/blogs site): https://vc.ru/finance/371584-glavnoe-v-ekonomike-na-fone-voyny-na-ukraine-den-4-zamorozka-aktivov-cb-ogranicheniya-ot-swift-amd-intel-i-google https://vc.ru/finance/371584-glavnoe-v-ekonomike-na-fone-voy... -- use google translate to see what words are used and what people have to say in the comment section. Plus, consider that Telegram is massively popular in Russia, people just subscribe to whatever they want and read whatever they want, wheteher it's RT, Reuters, or stuff like this: https://t.me/worldprotest https://t.me/worldprotest or https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAFcF8lv6w7Y4RfSW5Q https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAFcF8lv6w7Y4RfSW5Q or https://t.me/svtvnews https://t.me/svtvnews or, on the other hand, stuff like this: https://t.me/Doninside https://t.me/Doninside I would actually argue that Russians have much more sources of information available: Russian, Ukraininan, Western, independent. The evident post-truth politics from all sides breeds radical skepticism. The current situation is far from what can be called "a bubble", probably even further from what is happening in the rest of the world.

atoav 5y ago

I am not a Russian and don't live in Russia, so maybe the reports I read about are faulty, e.g.: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/26/propaganda-filters-truth-ukraine-war-russian-media https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/26/propaganda-fil...

foverzar 5y ago
I will just give you some context: Most news outlets in Russia nowadays aren't even registered as proper media, so they couldn't care less for any "propaganda filters". The article tries to assert that there is a huge difference between a perception of a "military operation" and a "war", but in Russian "military" and "war" is the same word (the same word root): "военная", "война" -- so everyone is just calling it "war". As an example, take look at this article (vc is a massively popular news/blogs site): https://vc.ru/finance/371584-glavnoe-v-ekonomike-na-fone-voyny-na-ukraine-den-4-zamorozka-aktivov-cb-ogranicheniya-ot-swift-amd-intel-i-google https://vc.ru/finance/371584-glavnoe-v-ekonomike-na-fone-voy... -- use google translate to see what words are used and what people have to say in the comment section. Plus, consider that Telegram is massively popular in Russia, people just subscribe to whatever they want and read whatever they want, wheteher it's RT, Reuters, or stuff like this: https://t.me/worldprotest https://t.me/worldprotest or https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAFcF8lv6w7Y4RfSW5Q https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAFcF8lv6w7Y4RfSW5Q or https://t.me/svtvnews https://t.me/svtvnews or, on the other hand, stuff like this: https://t.me/Doninside https://t.me/Doninside I would actually argue that Russians have much more sources of information available: Russian, Ukraininan, Western, independent. The evident post-truth politics from all sides breeds radical skepticism. The current situation is far from what can be called "a bubble", probably even further from what is happening in the rest of the world.