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I've seen a few videos of citizens lining up for weapons, and IMO, the troubling thing is the lack of uniforms. If Russians can't tell the difference between ci

by 34679 5y ago

I've seen a few videos of citizens lining up for weapons, and IMO, the troubling thing is the lack of uniforms. If Russians can't tell the difference between civilians and combatants, everyone becomes a target.

lazide 5y ago
‘Legally?’ Nope. But that is literally how every invasion ends up until the population is ‘pacified’. It’s why guerilla war works so well too. The invaders/gov’t can’t tell who is actually an adversary until it is late, and attempts to guess always kill innocent civilians which just draws more anger and hate from the local population and creates more rebels/guerillas. This is why people say ‘war is hell - because it is.
dragontamer 5y ago
Russia is already attacking hospitals and apartment buildings. The time has passed for that little problem. https://mobile.twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1497514747385757699 https://mobile.twitter.com/SkyNews/status/149751474738575769...
ceejayoz 5y ago
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/02/26/world/26ukraine-briefing-kyivteacher/26ukraine-briefing-kyivteacher-superJumbo.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/02/26/world/26ukraine-b... https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/02/26/world/26ukraine-briefing-photo-4sub/merlin_202886421_578676e3-2b80-4567-a2f6-a2eeb970aaa4-superJumbo.jpg?auto=webp&quality=90 https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/02/26/world/26ukraine-b... https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/02/26/world/26ukraine-briefing-photos-volunteers-1sub/merlin_202895034_2d95d62c-255e-4c3d-8fc3-01592fdbb3b2-superJumbo.jpg?auto=webp&quality=90 https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/02/26/world/26ukraine-b... https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/02/26/world/26ukraine-blog-rpg/26ukraine-blog-rpg-superJumbo.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/02/26/world/26ukraine-b... https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/02/26/world/26ukraine-briefing-washington-defense/26ukraine-briefing-washington-defense-superJumbo.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/02/26/world/26ukraine-b... Yellow armbands seem to be the militia indicator.
- rjsw 5y ago
  > Yellow armbands seem to be the militia indicator. Not just militia, both sides have the same uniforms and helmets.
  - throwaway48375 5y ago
    Perhaps the German offer of helmets wasn't as useless as it seemed.
restricted_ptr 5y ago
It's not clear if it helps in the long run, it probably does but a lot of friendly fire should be expected. Just recent example where Ukrainian anti aircraft units were taken for Russians and killed in Kyiv (the one where strela 10 vehicle collided with a car under fire) shows the danger.

by 34679 5y ago

lazide 5y ago

‘Legally?’ Nope. But that is literally how every invasion ends up until the population is ‘pacified’. It’s why guerilla war works so well too. The invaders/gov’t can’t tell who is actually an adversary until it is late, and attempts to guess always kill innocent civilians which just draws more anger and hate from the local population and creates more rebels/guerillas. This is why people say ‘war is hell - because it is.

dragontamer 5y ago

Russia is already attacking hospitals and apartment buildings. The time has passed for that little problem. https://mobile.twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1497514747385757699 https://mobile.twitter.com/SkyNews/status/149751474738575769...

ceejayoz 5y ago

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/02/26/world/26ukraine-briefing-kyivteacher/26ukraine-briefing-kyivteacher-superJumbo.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/02/26/world/26ukraine-b... https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/02/26/world/26ukraine-briefing-photo-4sub/merlin_202886421_578676e3-2b80-4567-a2f6-a2eeb970aaa4-superJumbo.jpg?auto=webp&quality=90 https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/02/26/world/26ukraine-b... https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/02/26/world/26ukraine-briefing-photos-volunteers-1sub/merlin_202895034_2d95d62c-255e-4c3d-8fc3-01592fdbb3b2-superJumbo.jpg?auto=webp&quality=90 https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/02/26/world/26ukraine-b... https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/02/26/world/26ukraine-blog-rpg/26ukraine-blog-rpg-superJumbo.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/02/26/world/26ukraine-b... https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/02/26/world/26ukraine-briefing-washington-defense/26ukraine-briefing-washington-defense-superJumbo.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/02/26/world/26ukraine-b... Yellow armbands seem to be the militia indicator.

rjsw 5y ago
> Yellow armbands seem to be the militia indicator. Not just militia, both sides have the same uniforms and helmets.
- throwaway48375 5y ago
  Perhaps the German offer of helmets wasn't as useless as it seemed.

restricted_ptr 5y ago

It's not clear if it helps in the long run, it probably does but a lot of friendly fire should be expected. Just recent example where Ukrainian anti aircraft units were taken for Russians and killed in Kyiv (the one where strela 10 vehicle collided with a car under fire) shows the danger.