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He is already doing it, just ran out of ammo. Russian ammo stockpiles are wast, but very old, and decrepit. Some literally date to WW2. In first 2 days, they u
by baybal2 5y ago
He is already doing it, just ran out of ammo. Russian ammo stockpiles are wast, but very old, and decrepit. Some literally date to WW2.
In first 2 days, they used pretty much everything against city outskirts.
You think Putin is afraid losing sleep? He already tried to bomb the Kiyv dam multiple times, he wants to destroy the city plainly, and simple.
https://uacrisis.org/en/the-russian-occupiers-tried-to-blow-up-the-dam-of-the-kyiv-reservoir https://uacrisis.org/en/the-russian-occupiers-tried-to-blow-...
If Kiyv dam is breached, it will flood the Zaporizhna nuclear plant.
- AYBABTME 5y agoWhere did you get this data about their ammo stockpiles? I'd love to believe it.
- bluGill 5y agoEven if true pre WWII era ammo is often found by sportsmen and tested, it works just fine. Modern shell design which is over 100 years old doesn't degrade with time very much. New ammo is more reliable of course, but old works well enough if you have a gun to use it in.
- technothrasher 5y agoYup, I've fired plenty of WWII era 7.62x54r out of my M91/30. No issues with it ever.
- simonh 5y agoIt’s bogus, the standard rifle of the Russian forces is the AK-74, developed in the 1970s. Their main tank is the T-72 developed in the 70s but continuously developed and upgraded since. Most of their attack helicopters date from the 70s and 80s or later. That may all sound dated, but bear in mind the M4 rifle used by US troops is based on a 60s design and the Abrams M1 tank is basically a 70s design. The Russian forces have been comprehensively re-equipped and resourced over the last decade and have experience from operations in Chechnya and Syria.
- baybal2 5y ago122mm ammo - WW2 stocks still there, 7.62x54R - same, 82mm mortars ammo - same, earliest KPV ammo is just few years older.
- ByersReason 5y agoOld tanks as no match for modern MANPADs
- Manuel_D 5y agoI think you mean antitank rockets & missiles. MANPADs - Man Portable Air Defense weapons - are for use against helicopters.
- ByersReason 5y agosorry, generic misused term. In this case I meant javelin and the UK/Swedish equivalent. Both of which have been supplied to Ukraine.
- jjtheblunt 5y agoT72 is a 60s design too
- simonh 5y agoIt’s literally named after the year it went into production. Of course it was a product of iterative design, refinement and experience going back decades.
- belter 5y agohttps://twitter.com/RihoTerras/status/1497537193346220038 https://twitter.com/RihoTerras/status/1497537193346220038
- chefkoch 5y agoSure, the russians who have been fighting in syria since 2015 and who have build more than 8000 of their most modern tank run out of ammo in 2 days. It would be really good news, but that's totally unbelievable.
- terafo 5y agoThey lost more soldiers just today than in all of the syrian war. And it's not about "all of russia ran out of ammo", it's "they overstretched their supply lines and can't supply enough ammo, fuel, etc, so their forces have just what they took with them".
- chefkoch 5y agoIt's only a four hours drive from russia to kiev, i can't believe one of the biggest armies in the World can Not find enough trucks to do this.
- stickfigure 5y agoIt also seems unlikely to me and I am skeptical. But logistics are hard under fire? Does Russia control the airspace or are the rumors true that Ukraine still has aircraft? Are there enemy teams with shoulder-launched missiles along the route? With cheap drones for reconnaissance? My impression is that the country is full of handheld antiair and antitank weapons, supplied by the west. That can't make it easy.
- dragonwriter 5y agoWhile troops were deployed to Belarus for “exercises”, there were lots of reports of them selling fuel and other supplies. That could have complicated logistics for the invasion.
- terafo 5y agoMajority of Ukrainian aircraft is intact. Drones are being used. >Are there enemy teams with shoulder-launched missiles along the route? Yes, and civilians are doing whatever they can to stop them. >My impression is that the country is full of handheld antiair and antitank weapons, supplied by the west. That can't make it easy. Yes. It's true, and more are coming.
- stjohnswarts 5y agoRussia has plenty of new artillery and arms. They have been building up a couple of decades. This is a tiny percentage of what they have waiting in the wings.