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Scale and danger and consequences. Ukraine is a big country. Russia has nukes. It also has a huge territory, so anything significant happening in or to Russia h

Scale and danger and consequences. Ukraine is a big country. Russia has nukes. It also has a huge territory, so anything significant happening in or to Russia has a high chance to be or to become important. Also, this could be a test case watched by China for a possible invasion of Taiwan, as has been mentioned. There also are a few more countries that Russia has thus far only targeted with rhetoric but could target for (re)annexation next, depending on their post mortem cost/benefit analysis of how it went in Ukraine once this is over. It also shows how little the rest of the world can do when a nuke-owning nation just starts a war unilaterally.

mohanmcgeek 5y ago
> A test case watched by China for a possible invasion of Taiwan I saw this as a headline from several news websites already. So are you sure you weren't influenced by that? Reality is that the Taiwan situation is very different from the Ukraine situation and China itself thinks of it that way. > Russia has nukes. India and Pakistan, TWO nuclear weapon weilding countries, had a brief air engagement a few years ago. Nothing on HN. No sides. No GitHub issues..
- 323 5y ago
  What's going on now in Ukraine is not brief. You could call brief when Russia invaded the eastern parts of it in 2014. Putin 3 days ago warned that any Western "interference" would have "consequences you never experienced in your history". Is Poland/Germany sending anti-tank and anti-air missiles in Ukraine now an "interference"?
  - xyzzyz 5y ago
    > Is Poland/Germany sending anti-tank and anti-air missiles in Ukraine now an "interference"? I think it doesn’t count as interference, according to arcane rules of international law. For example, during Cold War, US and Soviets would routinely openly arm combatants in their proxy war, and it didn’t count as actual offensive actions. For comparison, many voices in US are calling for instituting a No-Fly Zone over Ukraine. What that phrase means is they want NATO to commit to shoot down all Russian planes over Ukraine. NATO shooting down Russian aircraft will obviously will be taken as act of war by Russians.
- gpderetta 5y ago
  AFAIK, they have had multiple engagements. The fact that they managed not to glass each other gives me some hope for humanity.
ask_b123 5y ago
> Ukraine is a big country. Yemen is too. https://upload.vaa.red/2hjyom#565284ae60ef9dfd699d3810c0060038 https://upload.vaa.red/2hjyom#565284ae60ef9dfd699d3810c00600...

mohanmcgeek 5y ago

> A test case watched by China for a possible invasion of Taiwan I saw this as a headline from several news websites already. So are you sure you weren't influenced by that? Reality is that the Taiwan situation is very different from the Ukraine situation and China itself thinks of it that way. > Russia has nukes. India and Pakistan, TWO nuclear weapon weilding countries, had a brief air engagement a few years ago. Nothing on HN. No sides. No GitHub issues..

323 5y ago
What's going on now in Ukraine is not brief. You could call brief when Russia invaded the eastern parts of it in 2014. Putin 3 days ago warned that any Western "interference" would have "consequences you never experienced in your history". Is Poland/Germany sending anti-tank and anti-air missiles in Ukraine now an "interference"?
- xyzzyz 5y ago
  > Is Poland/Germany sending anti-tank and anti-air missiles in Ukraine now an "interference"? I think it doesn’t count as interference, according to arcane rules of international law. For example, during Cold War, US and Soviets would routinely openly arm combatants in their proxy war, and it didn’t count as actual offensive actions. For comparison, many voices in US are calling for instituting a No-Fly Zone over Ukraine. What that phrase means is they want NATO to commit to shoot down all Russian planes over Ukraine. NATO shooting down Russian aircraft will obviously will be taken as act of war by Russians.
gpderetta 5y ago
AFAIK, they have had multiple engagements. The fact that they managed not to glass each other gives me some hope for humanity.

ask_b123 5y ago

> Ukraine is a big country. Yemen is too. https://upload.vaa.red/2hjyom#565284ae60ef9dfd699d3810c0060038 https://upload.vaa.red/2hjyom#565284ae60ef9dfd699d3810c00600...