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Looking at this code, and more broadly speaking the cellular telephony ecosystem as a whole, the best way to articulate what I feel is to point at GNS3, the net
by exikyut 5y ago
Looking at this code, and more broadly speaking the cellular telephony ecosystem as a whole, the best way to articulate what I feel is to point at GNS3, the network simulator.
GNS3 is honestly insane. It lets me run virtualized instances of the software stacks hiding inside 6..8-figure (!!) network equipment and then route packets between stuff in exactly the same way I would get if I had the physical equipment.
But I personally find absolutely no substitute (as I get started/oriented) to being able to plonk a switch on a workbench and reason about it in a tactile manner.
I think the same argument might be made about flight simulation: to a point, a flight simulator has nothing on just getting in a plane and flying around.
In both cases, a) it's entirely reasonable to do without "the real thing" and still figure things out, and b) simulation is an such an exceedingly useful drilling and training aid that the industry as a whole would be missing something measurable without it.
But it still remains that establishing a correctly calibrated fundamental sense of how everything works and how stuff gets done can be harder when using a simulator. Things might not intuitively click right away. Mental models might be a bit (or a lot) more fragmented. Complex concepts might require more juggling and mental effort to integrate and understand.
So you can kind of see my frustration: I'm extremely interested in wireless communications in general (just broadly speaking) so being able to stare at all this code is awesome... with the caveat emptor that I can't legally do anything with it in the real world. The revolution of software-defined radio might mean the physical baseband aspect of 3G/4G/5G is more accessible than ever - a couple thousand now (if that, I think) instead of 5+ figures - but the relevant spectra are still licensed and locked down tight pretty much worldwide, and that's not likely to change anytime in the long term.
Unlike the "I'll probably never see one of these in person" kit that I'm content to look at pictures of and tinker with in GNS3 :) wireless networking/communications does (at least to me) largely lend itself to being a very tactile subject that you just want to play with in the real world.
LoRaWAN is very low bitrate and (to a cursory/long distance understanding) has a bit of friction around patents/licensing (although if I can buy premade modules that Just Work™ I'm happy)
Long-range Wi-Fi is... not really an explicitly supported configuration because it gets right up at the edge of legal transmit power limits.
Wi-MAX... I honestly don't get. I can't tell where it sits on the relevance spectrum. I remember reading about it years ago but it's like it disappeared at some point.
Ham radio cannot be encrypted and thus represents a step down in terms of present status quo expectations on the public Internet.
I'm incidentally curious how DJI's drones can get 10km line of sight. I wonder what transmit power and band(s) they're using to manage that (ISM 2.4GHz/5.8GHz?). Presumably the video transmission architecture is an eye-glaze-inducing highly specialized proprietary mess that's reasonably micro-optimized to the hilt (?).
With the above in mind, is there anything up-and-coming, obscure or whatnot that I (very probably) don't know about in the space?
And flipping the entire problem domain around, how can I get interested in the open source work being done in the cellular space? What interesting things can I do without any sort of base station equipment? And to what extent can I play around with cellular-band RF if I were to go shopping?
- delabay 5y agoIf you're in the US you can play with professional grade wireless telecom hardware using CBRS spectrum. I have a magma core and radio on my house to play around with. Some teams are doing very interesting work in combining crypto incentives to build private and public networks which modern phones can roam onto with esims.
- KingFelix 5y agoAre you working on one? I saw pollen mobile, San Francisco based at the moment and data only. Interesting stuff
- delabay 5y agoI have all the associated equipment for every US-based CBRS project. It all functions. My phone roams onto it, the eSIM / physical SIM works. The blockchain and various business agreements need to catch up for the dream to be realized. imagine getting paid to own and operate your own small cellphone tower. the day is near.
- exikyut 5y agoHuh, TIL about this. I did a bit of digging around and the 3.6GHz band appears to have been licensed in Australia in 2018 (https://www.acma.gov.au/auction-summary-36-ghz-band-2018 https://www.acma.gov.au/auction-summary-36-ghz-band-2018) after some consideration of what the US was doing (https://www.acma.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-02/3_6%20GHz%20Band_Options%20Paper.pdf https://www.acma.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-02/3_6%20GH..., ~p40) and then apparently developing amnesia (https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=https://www.acma.gov.au/sites/default/files/2019-10/3.4%20GHz%20and%203.6%20GHz%20band%20consultation%20-%20outcomes%20and%20response%20to%20submissions.docx https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=https://www.acma.gov.au/s...) (yay). I did a bit of poking around trying to figure out what the magma radio you speak of would look like but came up completely blank. I'm very curious how this works? I'm also interested to understand (albeit from a literal distance) more about the teams you mention, particularly how phones (you specify "modern" - does that mean 5G? 4G? 4G-with-these-specific-extras?) can roam onto CBRS-spectra networks with eSIMs - I just learned about these and wouldn't mind building a good orientational mental model about them. *Penny drop* OH so that's why the ACMA auction mentioned the 3.6GHz spectra was relevant to 5G... you say modern phones can roam onto CBRS??? How-- oooooh, that's really interesting, I finally get what you mean about throwing crypto into the mix to incentivise (presumably the radios aren't too cheap yet). I don't think I can play with this in Australia (but am unsure how to read the situation, for all I know I'm barking up the wrong tree with the above links) but this is very cool to know about.